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Pope Francis orders US Bishops to delay their vote today on tackling sexual abuse

Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:26 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69234 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:26 am
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BALTIMORE — The bishops of America’s 196 Catholic dioceses and archdioceses gathered in Baltimore on Monday morning, meeting for the first time since sexual abuse scandals rocked the church in the summer. They planned to vote on measures to tackle the crisis and prevent further crimes.

In the opening minutes of their meeting, the bishops heard a surprising report: Pope Francis had asked them not to vote on any of their proposals.

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The pope does not want U.S. bishops to act to address bishops' accountability on sexual abuse until he leads a worldwide meeting of church leaders in February, the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, told the gathered bishops as the meeting opened Monday morning.

“At the insistence of the Holy See, we will not be voting on the two action items,” DiNardo said. He said he was “disappointed” by the pope’s directive.

Anne Barrett Doyle, co-director of BishopAccountability.org, called the last-minute order from the Vatican “truly incredible.”

“What we see here is the Vatican again trying to suppress even modest progress by the U.S. bishops,” said Doyle, whose group compiles data on clergy abuse in the church. “We’re seeing where the problem lies, which is with the Vatican. The outcome of this meeting, at best, was going to be tepid and ineffectual, but now it’s actually going to be completely without substance."


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Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11131 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:28 am to
Pope Francis will kill what’s left of the Catholic Church.

Whether it’s intentional or mere incompetence is debatable.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18253 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:29 am to
Is it so hard to get a pope with some balls? Round up whatever pedophile priests are still living and hang them in St. Peter's Square on live TV.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:30 am to
Just split from the church. dude is evil.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:30 am to
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until he leads a worldwide meeting of church leaders in February


Heard a comedian make a funny comment on this the other day:

"A two week conference? I got an idea, handle this in an email.

Dear Priests,

This is the Pope. Stop fricking little kids.

Thanks,

Holy See"
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3500 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:31 am to
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We’re seeing where the problem lies, which is with the Vatican.


yep, sanctioned from the top on down.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14394 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:32 am to
If you believe, it is not worth it. He is old, he will not last long. There will be significant backlash (I hope and pray) in the next Conclave.

Francis is a huge problem, :(

Remember, y'all, it is not little kids, the numbers do not seem to hold up. It is slightly older, late teens, to the tune of almost 85% of the claims. It is homosexual pederasty, not pedophilia in most cases. :( Horrible either way, of course, but someone or many seem to be content sowing confusion on the issue and generating double outrage as if outrage were not enough.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11131 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:34 am to
I just can’t pretend that people capable of hiding this type of behavior and displaying this level of hubris and indifference have any business teaching me or anyone else about morality and the word of god as contained in the Bible.

If you behave this way you have not only lost the right to preach to others, but need to dedicate your time to reflecting on your own actions and how they’ve impacted those around you.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65588 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:41 am to

Always strange to me how so many Catholics love to boycott just about any affront to their beliefs but the Catholic Church itself. Dicks Sporting Goods? You bet. Priests playing with them? Not a chance.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18565 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:43 am to
I think intentional and I am a loyal catholic.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21149 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:48 am to
Actually, I stopped contributing to the Bishops Services Appeal over 10 years ago because of this and other issues related to the LA Bishops Association testifying in the LA Legislature that ignorance you don’t support “forgiveness” and granting parole eligibility to convicted murderers, then you are a bad Catholic.

I still give some money to the local church we attend, and mostly because the new priest who has been named pastor told the congregation during one of his first Masses “If you witness or hear of a clergy or church official sexually violating a child, don’t report it to me or someone within the church...call the police first”.

Dude earned my respect right there.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17108 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:53 am to
1. Let priests get married
2. Let women be priests
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8753 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:57 am to
After being raised catholic and attending Catholic School pre-k through high school, I ran and never looked back.

Here’s a solution, let the priests get married and have relations with the opposite sex. You’re putting humans in an unnatural situation as catholic priests.
Posted by geauxtigers6492
Admin in Waiting
Member since Jun 2008
3981 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:00 pm to
As a Catholic......WTF Francis.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71326 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Remember, y'all, it is not little kids, the numbers do not seem to hold up. It is slightly older, late teens, to the tune of almost 85% of the claims. It is homosexual pederasty, not pedophilia in most cases. :( Horrible either way, of course, but someone or many seem to be content sowing confusion on the issue and generating double outrage as if outrage were not enough.



Why the hell is this the defense I keep seeing?

At this point, I have no idea how people can remain Catholic.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:07 pm to
They have to vote on it, its not unanimous that something should have been done immediately?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37560 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:10 pm to
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As a Catholic......WTF Francis.


Dude is truly a piece of shite
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43456 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Here’s a solution, let the priests get married and have relations with the opposite sex. You’re putting humans in an unnatural situation as catholic priests.


that really no excuse. If the priest wanted to go bang some hookers on his off time, that is fine... nothing excuses him diddling young children.



Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48247 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:25 pm to
If Catholics allow Priests to get married there would be a bunch of male homosexual Priests, Bishops and Cardinals who would want to marry their male sexual partners.

So, I don't think that allowing Priests to get married would solve these problems, because the main problem is that the Male Homosexual Cabal that seems to be running Roman Catholicism is IN CONTROL, baby.



PS It will take 100 years to solve this problem AND IMHO, that clock has not yet begun to tick.



Wowza.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:27 pm to
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1. Let priests get married



Yes

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2. Let women be priests


frick no
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