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re: Pope Francis: It is the Christian ideal to have a universal basic wage to protect workers

Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Pope Francis


Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:11 pm to
Commies do commie things.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:16 pm to
And everyone would have to give 10%.
That’s the plan.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:17 pm to
Won’t no one think of the carnies?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:53 pm to
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nd the vast majority of the great art from the last 500 years (especially during the Renaissance) was commissioned by the Church. Not only that...a lot of the art in the Vatican Museum was saved by the Church during the Napoleonic Wars and the World Wars



Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth
and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor
rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal

Sounds like they could stand to sell off some art to help the poor before they called on government to implement UBI
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:53 pm to
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ope Francis advocated for a universal basic income amid the coronavirus pandemic in an Easter letter to leaders of social movements and organizations around the world.

“This may be the time to consider a universal basic wage which would acknowledge and dignify the noble, essential tasks you carry out,” he wrote. “It would ensure and concretely achieve the ideal, at once so human and so Christian, of no worker without rights.”

In his message the pope acknowledged that the pandemic and subsequent economic shutdowns have hit “twice as hard” for those without any legal guarantee of protection.

“Street vendors, recyclers, carnies, small farmers, construction workers, dressmakers, the different kinds of caregivers: you who are informal, working on your own or in the grassroots economy, you have no steady income to get you through this hard time ... and the lockdowns are becoming unbearable,” he wrote.


I'd rather not take advice from an organization that still has not let investigators check out their files for child rapists.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:13 pm to
Same pope who wants other countries to open their borders bit hasn’t torn down the Vatican’s walls.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:22 pm to
The church telling other people to be charitable
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:26 pm to
I’m sure he thinks that the solution to obesity amongst the poor is taxpayer-funded personal trainers and life coaches, too.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:36 pm to
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carnie
You’re laughing, but I know plenty of tax paying good carnies who are good people and make well over six figures and give a lot of money to schools and churches.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Marathon, FL
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:47 pm to
He also said the Corona Virus was revenge from mother nature.

Not God, or the hubris of man.

Mother nature.

He's a clown.
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:57 pm to
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2 Thes 3:10-11 10 For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. 11 For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies.



I note that he says “wage” to protect “workers”....

Not asking for “universal basic income” for everyone.

So I have to ask, who doesn’t believe that someone who works 40 hpw shouldn’t be paid enough to afford the basics in life - Food and housing? And also the means to get to/perform the job?

The “minimum wage” should provide a minimum standard of living. No more, no less.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 6:00 pm to
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Pope Francis advocated for a universal basic income amid the coronavirus pandemic in an Easter letter to leaders of social movements and organizations around the world

I am catholic but he really needs to stick to religion. Maybe if he would donate just a little bit of the money that he controls that would benefit many more people than relying on government to control what a person should make
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29915 posts
Posted on 4/12/20 at 6:25 pm to
I'm pretty sure Jesus would be saying that NOW is the time for Christians to take care of their fellow man, not whining that Rome isn't doing enough for the people.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 6:43 pm to
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I hope that's a satire news site

quote:

The Hill
It is.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 6:46 pm to
"God is socialism, socialism is God."

Rev. Jim Jones
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 6:49 pm to
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I'm sure someone on here could twist Christ's words using the heretical doctrine of Sola Scriptura if they wanted to, but Christ never once touches upon universal income policy.


Jesus says religion and government should be separate and spent much of his life rebuking organized religion and hierarchies.

To repay him, his followers established an organized religious hierarchy and intertwined it inseparable from government and at some points in history it was an actual government.

The Bible makes a point to show how absolutely amazed and blown away people were when Jesus said man’s government and policies have nothing to do with God.

Mark 12:14-17
quote:

They came to him and said, "Teacher, we know that you are a man of integrity. You aren't swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not?

Should we pay or shouldn't we?" But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it."

They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose image is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied.

Then Jesus said to them, "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.




Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 7:00 pm to
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I note that he says “wage” to protect “workers”....The “minimum wage” should provide a minimum standard of living. No more, no less.


I am sure his main focus is all the nations where people harvest food, manufacture goods ect for the richest nations and live in utter poverty.

However, it's still an unpopular message since poverty stricken laborers in much of the world is what props up our way of life, especially the exponentially increasing wealth of the upper echelon of investors/earners.

Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 7:40 pm to
Jesuits are such femmes
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