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re: Poor, poor NFL players risking their lives to play everyday
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:08 am to DeafJam73
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:08 am to DeafJam73
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A lot of people see these big numbers but don’t realize how far it really gets you. It dries up almost immediately.
It does not. It gets wasted almost immediately.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:10 am to CockyTime
I rolled my eyes when the news said that the saints brought in a fricking counselor for their team. Really? Are they that weak minded? They get a ton of benefits along with their salary, please spare me.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:12 am to Rand AlThor
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Way to ignore the most important part of my post.
How about you go receive the injury this kid just got, and then I'll hand you $500K and tell you to survive the rest of your life on it, including having to pay your medical bills?
God, some of you are so out of touch it's insane
The NFL will take care of this kid, so will everyone donating money to a guy with a salary of close to a million. NFL Players are paid these salaries BECAUSE they take risks. This injury is what he gets paid for. He's not the first guy to have an injury that possibly ruins his career. Due to the sensational nature of the injury, now it's an issue. Now we have to "save" Damar Hamlin. Not to mention any insurance policies he should have had on his ability to earn. Without the donations, assuming a decent recovery, Hamlin has plenty to live a nicer life than the vast majority of Americans.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:14 am to Rand AlThor
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How about you go receive the injury this kid just got, and then I'll hand you $500K and tell you to survive the rest of your life on it, including having to pay your medical bills?
Damar Hamlin will be well taken care of both financially and medically for the rest of his life. It sucks that he'll probably never get to play again, but I'm sure the Bills will give him some special ambassador role within the organization just to make sure he gets an annual salary for awhile.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:14 am to Rand AlThor
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Way to ignore the most important part of my post.
How about you go receive the injury this kid just got, and then I'll hand you $500K and tell you to survive the rest of your life on it, including having to pay your medical bills?
God, some of you are so out of touch it's insane
Nobody is going to sign up for $500K knowing they're about to take a life alerting injury dummy. But i bet millions would before just based on the chances of that injury actually happening which is the point here. There are thousand or so players that are currently playing on teams that will never come close to being injured as badly
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:15 am to Cajunhawk81
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The NFL will take care of this kid
You're just assuming this. He isn't vested, his healthcare for life does not have to be covered. A year from now when this isn't a news story anymore, will they? Doubtful.
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so will everyone donating money to a guy with a salary of close to a million
No one has donated money to Hamlin. They donated money to his charity. It is not the same. Though, judging by your posts in this thread, I'm sure you think he'll just "steal" that money or whatever like your hero Trump does.
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Not to mention any insurance policies he should have had on his ability to earn.
Minimum earning players like Hamlin rarely spend their money on these policies.
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Hamlin has plenty to live a nicer life than the vast majority of Americans.
Unless the NFL gives him early vesting status, he will likely spend all of or more than the salary he has earned up to this point just on medical expenses to cover the repercussions of this injury for the rest of his life. That does not cover all of the other expenses required to live his life.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:15 am to Rand AlThor
quote:What is the outcome? Do we know the long term impacts yet?
How about you go receive the injury this kid just got, and then I'll hand you $500K and tell you to survive the rest of your life on it, including having to pay your medical bills?
God, some of you are so out of touch it's insane
What about firefighters and police officers? I'd bet this guy is better off than them in a similar situation.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:16 am to BearsFan
But they also had college paid for and if they didn’t get a degree in something useful then that’s on them. I do not feel sorry for any of them. I do hate to see anyone get hurt but …
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:17 am to DeafJam73
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He has to pay taxes on that, his agent gets a cut, other people who work for him or represent him get a cut, he has to pay for cost of living like anyone else. A lot of people see these big numbers but don’t realize how far it really gets you. It dries up almost immediately.
Sounds like poor money management.
Also, to the other poster, the medical bills from all this will be covered by the NFL.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:18 am to Walkerdog14
Good discussion here regardless of other threads. Anchor treatment is dumb
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:18 am to Cajunhawk81
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It does not. It gets wasted almost immediately.
Yeah, I’m sure he splurged like any 24 year old would. The point is that the money does dry up fast. Especially if you’ve only been in the league for as little time as he has. Hamlin hasn’t really had the time to establish himself and build security. He’s in what? A 40% tax rate? His agent probably collects somewhere between 5-10% of his contract. So right off the bat half his money is gone.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:18 am to CockyTime
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Nobody has the balls in the media to mention how much money they're making playing the game
Would it make you feel better if they made a lot less and the owners kept all the money?
Turn it off if you don't want to hear it. Its the biggest story right now so it will be talked about. There are other options out there to listen to.
As for as what they make, they are paid based on what their agent and the team agree on based on their value to the team.
If they are a player who people all over the country like to watch, that brings in more revenue for the team. The Bengal games for example. Having Joe Burrow increased their viewership into the South. Bengal games are shown in this region a lot more today then they were 4+ years ago.
Do you hate that singers and entertainers make a lot of money just for singing some songs and going around playing those songs in front of a live audience?
I'd rather see a headline about Damar Hamlin than about some Kardashian bullshite. At least Hamlin does some good with his success (through his charities).
I am sick of people bitching about shite they don't have to watch or pay attention to. Its not his fault sports networks decide to talk about him. Im sure his family is tired of having their loved one being talked about by talking heads breaking down all kind of bullshite just to fill up airtime, but that's just what the media does, they milk a story until the next one comes up. But you know what? I haven't heard one word about it today. You know what? I haven't put on anything sports related. They need to stop talking about it so his family can deal with it in private, but evidently if people like you still listen even if it makes you irrationally mad.
Networks don't care why you listen, they just care about putting out content that gets people to turn them on.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:23 am to brass2mouth
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Also, to the other poster, the medical bills from all this will be covered by the NFL.
They will be covered today, for this specific event, yes.
If he has any medical expenses related to this after he is out of the NFL, assuming he does not return and play another season to earn vesting status, he will have to cover those himself.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:24 am to Rand AlThor
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Way to ignore the most important part of my post. How about you go receive the injury this kid just got, and then I'll hand you $500K and tell you to survive the rest of your life on it, including having to pay your medical bills?
You also choose to ignore the fact that there are people in the world working jobs like construction or in the oil fields that present more dangers, yet pay less.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:24 am to OweO
quote:Yes.
Would it make you feel better if they made a lot less and the owners kept all the money?
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:25 am to Rand AlThor
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You're just assuming this. He isn't vested, his healthcare for life does not have to be covered. A year from now when this isn't a news story anymore, will they? Doubtful.
They've taken care of paraplegics, they will take care of him.
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No one has donated money to Hamlin. They donated money to his charity. It is not the same. Though, judging by your posts in this thread, I'm sure you think he'll just "steal" that money or whatever like your hero Trump does.
Your mom did a number on you, didn't she?
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Minimum earning players like Hamlin rarely spend their money on these policies.
That's extremely stupid. Not surprising though. None of these guys should end up broke, but so many do. If he didn't have insurance...that's kind of his issue. Not mine, not yours, not the worlds issue.
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Unless the NFL gives him early vesting status, he will likely spend all of or more than the salary he has earned up to this point just on medical expenses to cover the repercussions of this injury for the rest of his life. That does not cover all of the other expenses required to live his life.
They've taken care of paraplegics, they will take care of him.
Again, you and the rest of the bleeding hearts don't need to "save" him. This isn't about him, it's about how you feel. How you need to feel good about doing all that you can, to "save" someone. It's vapid and shallow.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:25 am to BearsFan
1. They argued for higher salaries and benefits because it’s Dangerous (very rarely deadly, probably more statistically life threatening to drive a car than play football in the NFL) They know the risks of CTE and play because of the Risk/reward ratio.
2. The league minimum is over $700k. I don’t know what you consider “all that much” but that’s more than most families in the US will make in 12 years. Please hold my crying towel for people in the TOP 1% of income earners in the United States.
3. This point makes all of your other arguments moot.
2. The league minimum is over $700k. I don’t know what you consider “all that much” but that’s more than most families in the US will make in 12 years. Please hold my crying towel for people in the TOP 1% of income earners in the United States.
3. This point makes all of your other arguments moot.
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