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re: Plane crash in Palm Beach County today
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:03 am to DeBoar
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:03 am to DeBoar
quote:There are websites that listen and log ATC audio. Almost all everything is available in almost real-time these days. Been that way for a few years.
Random question how did the ATC audio get released so quickly?
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:04 am to Mo Jeaux
Uh, yeah I am- maybe u aren’t with your subpar driving skills
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:07 am to stout
quote:Simple rule for Part 135 pilots: "if you scare me you're fired".
One time he almost overshot our destination, so he dived down faster than usual and popped the speed brakes at the same time. I was asleep when he did it and woke up damn near crapping my pants. He was laughing about it like he enjoyed it.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:09 am to Spocks Brain
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Uh, yeah I am
You tell em lil buddy….
Dont stop..Believing!!!!
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:10 am to Spocks Brain
There was hatas yesterday saying the co pilot was some TikTok kid that posted at learjetgurl.
Guess they was right.
Guess they was right.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:10 am to sicboy
Give me the 47-year old white guy on his 7th cup of coffee and 3rd divorce with today's Daily Racing Form in his back pocket.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:11 am to Tigeralum2008
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Lots of kids get their ppl while in HS. It’s just like taking early college classes
My son did this his Senior year of high school and then went to LA Tech for Aviation.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:12 am to MWP
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My son did this his Senior year of high school and then went to LA Tech for Aviation.
That’s awesome! They have a good program.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:16 am to stout
quote:If I’m rich enough to fly private, there’s no way in hell I would get on a plane with two pilots that young.
The Jack in the audio was her fiancé, who was also a 21-year-old pilot
How does an aviation company not have someone with at least 10 years of experience piloting that thing?
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:16 am to Tigeralum2008
My sauce just told me there was a dog on board, too.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:17 am to Spocks Brain
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Uh, yeah I am- maybe u aren’t with your subpar driving skills
So the white Cadillac driver (believed to have narrowly missed the disaster) was in control of his own destiny when a ~ 20,000 lbs lear jet is screaming in like a missile at 22,000 feet per minute?
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:22 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Give me the 47-year old white guy on his 7th cup of coffee and 3rd divorce with today's Daily Racing Form in his back pocket.
This dude would have safely landed the plane.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:24 am to StringedInstruments
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Before this crash the Learjet 60 was had fatal odds per trip of 1 in 1.1 million
To compare a good commercial airline like Delta has a 1 in 25 million odds, many airlines never crashed though so the real odds are even lower like 1 in 40 million trips maybe
So the Learjet 60 was already 40x less safe than commercial airliners
That's something I keep repeating about private jets, they're simply not as safe as flying commercial because:
- pilots require less flight hours
- private aviation is less regulated
- smaller airports with less or no instrument landing systems (ILS)
- smaller planes are more affected by weather (in this case icing)
The Learjet 60 now has fatal odds of 1 in 800,000 which is still about double as safe as the Cessna Citation (one of the most common private jets)
Most Gulfstreams still have flawless safety records though, G500/G600, G550, G650/G700/G800 never crashed, so if you are boarding a private jet anytime soon, I'd say go with them!
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:26 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:Were her and Jack a DEI couple? Either she dates older men (giggity) or they were both young in experience and hours in that aircraft.
news piece highlighting that girl as the female champion.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:28 am to SoFla Tideroller
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there was a dog on board, too.
well now it really is a tragedy.
:sarcasm:
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:29 am to KosmoCramer
Touché, I guess that’s the only caveat is something falling out of the sky on to your vehicle-
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:29 am to stout
It's amazing how these longer threads on any topic tuns the EXACT same way. It starts off the story with some slightly not accurate data, then a few people with actual knowledge of the topic pop in with good related info. Then someone comes with a dumb arse take. The thread gets derailed for several pages as they argue. Next comes those that are too lazy to read the thread and post old outdated info. And the cycle continues until the real information gets out.
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:29 am to stout
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IDK, my friend's normal pilot is an old dude with years and hours of experience, but once he wasn't available to fly us so he recommended another guy who was ex-military and also used to fly helis for the LAPD. Dude was a cowboy in the cockpit.
One time he almost overshot our destination, so he dived down faster than usual and popped the speed brakes at the same time. I was asleep when he did it and woke up damn near crapping my pants. He was laughing about it like he enjoyed it.
He told us wild stories about his police chases and flying low across L.A. and damn near hitting buildings and cliffs
Not sure I would ever fly with that dude again
Well, I'd want someone that flew jets in the military and then transitioned to fly commercial airliners. There have to be a bunch.
And I'd be very clear about not taking risks and desired level of comfort for passengers on the plane
I might partner that guy with a stodgy, checklist following rule follower co-pilot with a lot of boring experience and some real meteorology training. Perfect combo
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:33 am to CatfishJohn
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I might partner that guy with a stodgy, checklist following rule follower co-pilot with a lot of boring experience and some real meteorology training. Perfect combo
I get that, but my friend's plane is a Cessna Citation CJ2, which is certified for single-pilot operation. He was the only one flying us that day and flew us back a few days later. Thankfully, the return flight was less adventurous.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 9:34 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Give me the 47-year old white guy on his 7th cup of coffee and 3rd divorce with today's Daily Racing Form in his back pocket.
This.
If I saw these two were piloting my private jet to the Bahamas ... I'm firing my private jet company and booking first class on Delta.
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 9:38 am
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