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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:24 pm to Mister Hoagie
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Mister Hoagie
You just might be surprised how many folks here have direct ties to the aviation industry. Speculation after any incident/accident is just part of the aftermath. Sometimes it is correct and sometimes it is totally in the wrong direction. The ntsb and the feds aren’t using this website to make their determination of events. Lighten up Francis.
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:26 pm to NorthEndZone
ATC stated it descended 27,000’ in less than a minute. If you estimate 30,000’ per minute, then that equates to 341mph. That’s a lot of velocity at damn near a vertical angle.
Prayers for the families…
Prayers for the families…
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:29 pm to The Boat
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You can pretty much do whatever you want at FL410, but they descended from that in a very busy airspace
Good point. And flying that high in a lear jet is walking the razor between stalling and hitting speed limitations of the plane, not to mention icing.
Didn't she say it was like -47 degrees at altitude? That's all a really bad combination.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
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If this is timed up correctly, the storm that got them blew up almost right over them.
Are fighter jets equipped to handle this?
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:38 pm to Bbobalou
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I can't remember the term but watching ww2 videos pilots would say that in a dive something happens and the pilots have no control.
Lowering wheels or some other options can slow the plane and allow it to come back under control.
Total non-flying novice, but have read enough to talk out my arse...
As speeds increase, especially getting closer and closer to mach 1, the air pressure over the wing and control surfaces exerts enough force to prevent, or at least make it extremely difficult to move the control surfaces via the stick and pedals.
The US Dauntless dive bomber had speed brakes on the top of the wing that were extended prior to the dive. This slowed the plane enough in the dive for the pilot to maintain control and allowed him to pull up after releasing his payload.
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:42 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Pilot analyzes what went wrong (timestamped).
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Nope
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:51 pm to Mister Hoagie
quote:all I stated is I know a family from Austin that has one of those and a femail relative that wants to be a pilot..... Nothing more nothing less...
I’m so glad that the skilled OT aviators are on this case!!! Experts in action. Do any of you even slightly know what your are talking about??? This hasn’t stopped you before.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:53 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:56 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Looks like they might have identified the female pilot who was radioing the ATC
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:59 pm to JasonDBlaha
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
Interesting so this was a charter plane? Or is that just how most planes are registered? I would think that a charter would be much less likely to fly through that weather than an otherwise private? But maybe that’s how some of these charters run, a little riskier? Idk
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:06 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Reportedly 15 people aboard.
I heard it was a lie either 45 or 60 and neither one of them carries more than 19 pax’s.
I’ll be curious to see what the final report is that sucker auger in hard
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:06 pm to baldona
Yes, it's a charter company. Sad. Pretty girl
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:07 pm to TIGERHOLD
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I hate private planes. Incredibly selfish and wasteful.
These damn things are constantly dropping like flies endangering everyone else on the ground all because some rich a-hole couldn’t fly commercial like literally every reasonable person. Not to mention that they waste fuel and clog up the skies.
I would ban private planes if I was in charge of the FAA or put a massive tax on them which would fund air safety upgrades
Wow, that’s a lot of stupidity for one post.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:08 pm to baldona
It was probably operating under part 135 regulations. Charter ops, not scheduled as part 121 airlines. There are differences on the ops and maintenance sides.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:11 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:I think he was trolling, that's how absurd it is.
Wow, that’s a lot of stupidity for one post.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:12 pm to baldona
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Interesting so this was a charter plane? Or is that just how most planes are registered? I would think that a charter would be much less likely to fly through that weather than an otherwise private? But maybe that’s how some of these charters run, a little riskier? Idk
Charter doesn't mean the owner couldn't have been on board and made them fly through the storm, because it could have been on a Part 135 Certificate that allows both charter and personal use
Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:13 pm to stout
This flight path and turn north is diabolically dumb when looking at it just as a normal non pilot person at all
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