Mister Completely

TA's Drinkin with Lincoln. There was nothing on Bluebonnet except Swaggart's and an Exxon. Siegen was a 2 lane road out in the country. I remember when they moved OLOL from downtown to Essen...and there was hardly anything on Essen besides channel 33. Lots of memories of what used to be when BR wasn't a shithole.

You've got to be shitting me :lol:

Looked like Hoecht may have snapped his Achilles. Non contact and he just dropped after firing off.

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The bridge weather can me 180 from the weather in the Haight.

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I never knew about "microclimates" until the first time I went to SF. It's a trip. I remember walking about 10 blocks and going from perfectly fine to freezing my arse off. I learned to always carry a jacket in SF.

Having said that, I'll take the weather out there over weather in south Louisiana about 9 months or more out of the year.

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It's a shame that there are so many loonies there, because it is the most beautiful city in the US, IMO.

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It's up there, for sure. On a clear day, it's hard to beat how scenic views of the bay and bridge and Pacific are. The weather is amazing most of the year, scores of great restaurants, just a fantastic area....minus the large amount of deranged folks :lol:

Hiking the Lands End trails never gets old.

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Graves did IN FACT goto LSU!

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No he IN FACT did not.

He's from BR, went to Episcopal. But he graduated from UGA.

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How many covid shots did you get MrTrustTheExperts?

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Zero point zero. Pure fricking blood.
See I can think objectively and accept conclusions based on fact. It's why I didn't and won't ever get the jab. It's why I believe the NIST explanation of WTC collapse. I've read and done my research (not just what I think I might agree with) to get my own opinion.

Critical thinking is important.

ETA - it's obvious you're not intellectually honest so this debate is over. You offer no proof of what you claim; I submit facts from experts. Not theories or guesses like Covid doctors, but irrefutable facts. You can't and won't challenge one of them with evidence, other than your uneducated opinion. So good luck to you.

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Appeal to authority logical fallacy. Try again.

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While you're at it, since this is a fallacy to rely on literally hundreds of experts across multiple disciplines of science, please cite their errors in the evidence, facts, and conclusions and offer the correct explanations instead. I mean you're smarter than them so it shouldn't take long.

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You're trying to set this up as if there was this consistent temperature all over the building for these long periods of time and it's bullshite. Building fires do not get hot enough to do these things. The same reason I can't put a potato in the oven at 160 for 5 minutes and expect a cooked potato.

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Holy shite man! You figured it out. Congrats! I disagree with you. You know who else does?

NIST leadership
* S. Shyam Sunder, Ph.D.: Lead Investigator

NIST project leaders
* William L. Grosshandler, Ph.D.: Project Leader, Project 4: Investigation of Active Fire Protection Systems ??
* H.S. Lew, Ph.D., P.E.: Co-Project Leader, Project 1: Analysis of Building and Fire Codes and Practices ??
* Richard W. Bukowski, P.E.: Co-Project Leader, Project 1: Analysis of Building and Fire Codes and Practices ??
* Fahim Sadek, Ph.D.: Project Leader, Project 2: Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Analysis ??
* Frank W. Gayle, Ph.D.: Project Leader, Project 3: Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel ??
* John L. Gross, Ph.D., P.E.: Co-Project Leader, Project 6: Structural Fire Response and Collapse Analysis ??
* Therese P. McAllister, Ph.D., P.E.: Co-Project Leader, Project 6: Structural Fire Response and Collapse Analysis ??
* Jason D. Averill: Project Leader, Project 7: Occupant Behavior, Egress, and Emergency Communications ??
* J. Randall Lawson: Project Leader, Project 8: Fire Service Technologies and Guidelines ???

Other experts
* The team included over 200 professionals, with about 85 of them being NIST staff. 
* External experts came from academia and industry, and the investigation also involved collaborators from the Structural Engineering Association of New York (SEONY) and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE). 

Those are the leaders of the NIST investigation on WTC towers collapses. But it's really cool that you are smarter than them and are more of an expert in the subject matter.

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There was no fire remotely hot enough to reach the temperatures required to do what you are talking. WT7 was NOT hit by a plane, there was no jet fuel or anything else you can cite as a fuel source to reach the temperatures required to melt steel. Especially across the entire building which would be required to make it collapse like that.

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Let me do the work for you since you're so obtuse. These are just a few facts that you're either ignorant of or choosing to ignore.

- Jet fuel burns at 800 to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit, not hot enough to melt steel (2750 degrees Fahrenheit). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn’t need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat.
- Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100 degrees Fahrenheit. At 1800 degrees F, it's less than 10%
- Spray on fireproofing was knocked off of large sections of steel beams when the planes hit the towers
- Burning jet fuel was the catalyst, but fires were intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper.
- Some pockets of fires burned as hot as 1832 degrees Fahrenheit
- Building 7 and falling debris from the towers: On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom—approximately 10 stories—about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out
- Damage was also discovered on the southwest corner and upper stories of WTC 7
- Intense Fire burned in WTC 7 for hours. Many of us watched that live on TV.
- Building 7 was a progressive collapse inward on itself due to weakened supports and trusses caused by the fires. You can watch videos online of the roof beginning to sag and kink moments before it all came down