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re: Parenting question - 4 year old

Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Park duck
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:29 am to
Yall sound like a bunch of dang women.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:52 am to
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This isn't true, and studies show that it is safe short-term and most likely long term.




Even if that's the case, why are you giving them something that they dont need? Man up and figure out the problem instead. 99% of the time they just need to calm down and they will fall asleep on their own
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:59 am to
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why are you giving them something that they dont need
Why give them Tylenol for headaches? Cough medicine for coughs? Those things will just go away. What's your deciding factor for what they need?

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99% of the time they just need to calm down and they will fall asleep on their own
That's a ridiculous statement. 99%?
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16644 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:03 am to
What did the ole lady say this morning?
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
526 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:29 am to
We have this issue with my youngest son. I got tired of having to spank & yell when he was fighting with us over bath time, etc. It would make me feel terrible and he would forget the spanking in 10 minutes.

What I have been doing recently is to take away his current, 1 or 2 favorite toy(s) making sure he understands why and that he will "NEVER" get them back unless his behavior improves. And in fact he will loose more toys for each repeat issue.

He then gets room confinement where he can read, etc. No tv or toys the rest of that day/night and possibly the next day.

It's actually starting to work so far. And the key is to be firm and assertive but not "mean"...Follow through with your threats. No negotiation or waffling. If it doesn't work, adapt the plan. Don't give up.

And for the love of God, make sure you get the wife on the same page because they will likely end up sabotaging any progress you make.

Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2320 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:55 am to
It is obvious to me that she has never had a routine bed time. Get her on a schedule. My two boys (5 & 7) are in bed by 8 pm and are usually sleeping 15 minutes later. It is tough when school starts to break them of their summer habits but after a week their internal clocks adjust. By 7:30 they are usually both yawning. The only down side to this is they are usually awake around six am everyday, and it doesn't matter if it's the weekend but they are getting old enough to get their own breakfast if I sleep in which is rare.

ETA- I see all the comments about spanking your kids. This is something I NEVER have to do because they know not to cross that line. If you keep them in check you'll never have to spank them.
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Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2140 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:15 pm to
Melatonin is not regulated, and can have up to a 480% variance in mg. LINK

It’s only been the last 100 years or so that children have not slept with their parents. My daughter slept in her room from 1-4, but In today’s busy life, I feel like I hardly would see her, and I cherished the moments of her sleeping in our bed, or on the floor as she got older, knowing that eventually she would outgrow it, and she did at 10, I see her even less now as she likes to do her own thing in her room.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:20 pm to
Kids that age are dumb as shite. You gotta set up a reward system instead of of punishment system. Make a chart tracking the nights the dumb kid goes to bed, and if they do so for # amount of days in a week, reward them with something at the end of the week. We had the same problem when our daughter was that age, and that worked like a charm. Start off with just 2 nights, then gradually increase it.

Some kids are just night owls. Daughter is 14 now and stays up until 2 or 3 in the morning nearly every night. She gets up in time for school and makes good grades, so I really couldn’t care.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:31 pm to
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don't even let them under 1

1 - my Dad could tell your horror stories of parents rolling over on their infant and smothering them

2 - breaking the habit, even at 1, can be hard

put the bassinet or whatever right next to your wife's side of the bed, if you must, but don't let them sleep in the bed with you

always been my #1 rule



That was probably my default anyways, but I haven't had to do any research. I know people whom the kid is over 5 that still sleeps in the bed on a regular basis (i.e. multiple times a week). I get the whole "OMG TERRIBLE DREAM" shite I guess, but that just seems over the top.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:38 pm to
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. My 4 year old has been refusing to go to bed and fights us for about 2 hours


Equal parts Dimetapp and Benadryl.

Your Welcome.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9664 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:42 pm to
You could try what my mom did to us when we were kids. . .

A dose of Benadryl about fifteen minutes before bedtime. (At least it's not the nasty tasting pink liquid these days that it once was.)
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:04 pm to
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and I finally told my wife to let me handle it. I took my daughter and put her in her room and locked the door from the outside. I let her scream and kick and cry and after about 10-15 minutes
You did it the absolute wrong way imo.

It may not be a huge deal but that's just not the way to do it at that age. One thing adults don't always realize, things like that are sometimes legit stress issues for a kid that age. There's a decent chance the next time or later on when your kid has legit stressful issues, she'll be more inclined to keep that to herself and not tell you considering you locked her in a room the previous time lol.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Make them scream it out. You're the boss. Not her. She's looking for you to set boundaries.
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We had to do that to our 4 year old, too. Locked him in from the outside. He'd scream and try to break down the door. He'd fall asleep with his feet on the floor and torso passed out laying on the bed.

Turns out he was on the autism spectrum and was having panic attacks. We had to take a whole new approach. Kids on the spectrum can have a hard time regulating their sleep pattern and we found melatonin to really help.
Wait your kid was having panic attacks and you locked him in a room, and now you're saying that was the right thing to do?

Wtf
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5806 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:22 pm to
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hired a child sleep therapist


Friend of mine had great success with that. Seriously.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
58304 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:25 pm to
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Is what I did wrong

No.
Posted by SM6
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:48 pm to
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You have to handle bed time with her for the next 2-4 weeks. Establish her a routine involving bathroom, water, story, cuddling. Then, make it clear she is not coming out that room. She will eventually stay in bed and sleep.


Routine, routine, routine. Ours started coming out her room right before her 4th birthday. It wasn't a knock-down, drag out fight, but there was always something. We stuck to that routine and in a week or two it ceased (now just an occasional excursion out). You'll get there.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:50 pm to
the only thing I know about parenting is that you're supposed to say "48 month old"
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58304 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:51 pm to
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the only thing I know about parenting is that you're supposed to say "48 month old"

So true
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15943 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Wait your kid was having panic attacks and you locked him in a room, and now you're saying that was the right thing to do? Wtf


I didn't know at the time he was on the spectrum. If he had been neurotypical, I wouldn't have felt like a total a-hole for letting him scream it out.
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Why give them Tylenol for headaches? Cough medicine for coughs?



Does your body naturally produce Acetaminophen and Dextromethorphan hydrobromide ?
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 2:03 pm
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