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re: Parenting question - 4 year old

Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:45 am to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:45 am to
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Does she attend daycare? Tell them to cut the nap out.



This is going to make dinner time a nightmare....
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32712 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:51 am to
Gotta stop napping at some point, right?

The time when they are resisting bedtime for 2 hours seems like an obvious signal that they're ready.
Posted by buggsy
Member since Dec 2020
30 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 7:59 am to
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I may be in the minority but this is awful advice. Kids don’t need sleep aids. What it does is lower their natural production.
And maybe worse sets up an addictive nature to sleep. “I have to have my pill or I can’t get to sleep.” Awful idea.



I second this. Tread lightly with melatonin.

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There are some indications that the drop in nocturnal melatonin levels during adolescence parallels sexual maturation processes.42 Accordingly, the decline in melatonin levels has been found to relate to the progression of Tanner stages.43 These observations, together with animal studies showing that exogenous melatonin can suppress GnRH secretion,44 contributed to the emergence of concerns about the possibility that exogenous melatonin supplementation may affect children’s sexual maturation.4
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124270 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:02 am to
Melatonin gummies, a sound machine and lullabies
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51291 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:03 am to
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The fact that you can lock her door from the outside is disturbing.


Why?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136811 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:05 am to
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My wife was mortified. She thought I was being too mean and she is going to hate me and have daddy issues.


This is the much much bigger problem.

Y'all need to get on the same page, as it pertains to parenting, now!!
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16051 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:06 am to
What’s wrong with letting them stay up and watch tv until they pass out?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:07 am to
You’re a good Dad and husband. Don’t change a thing.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:09 am to
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Or, you know, give them books during nap time

That's what ours does. My 4 year olds preschool teacher said only half of the kids nap at this age.




Exit this thread. You have given horrible parenting advice in your very first post.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:11 am to
You did the right thing at the right time, IMO
Your child learned that kicking and screaming no longer gets her what she wants.
Now your wife needs to buy into that or she will be manipulated until she does.
Posted by LSUBogeyMan
Member since Oct 2021
1181 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:12 am to
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. My 4 year old has been refusing to go to bed and fights us for about 2 hours


My kid is 5 and when she is tired, she is unbearable. You have to figure out a way to calm them and kick them out of that mode. We figured out a quick bath snaps her out of it and we can get her to listen afterwards.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:12 am to
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I second this. Tread lightly with melatonin.


Then, why do they sell them? Seems like if it was such an issue to give a child a very small dose of melatonin a few nights a week they'd pull it off the shelf - or have a warning label at least?
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18772 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:14 am to
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Is what I did wrong and my daughter is going to end up on the pole because of it or is there a happy medium somewhere?


Hell no. I’ve done the same with my kids over delaying going to bed. The key is explaining the punishment as it happens. They need to understand that certain actions have certain consequences. We used this principle a lot in ages 4-5. At that age, they understand what they did wrong.
If they feel punished for no reason, I could see an issue.
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 8:15 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32712 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:15 am to
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Exit this thread. You have given horrible parenting advice in your very first post.



I love the judgemental super parents in these threads.
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
754 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:17 am to
When my son we were having the same issues with him coming out of his room and not wanting to go to bed.

His door didn't have a lock on it so I replaced it with one that did, but put the locking side on the outside.

He would kick and scream for about 45 minutes. That lasted for about two weeks.

Now he's good.
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
754 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:18 am to
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Now your wife needs to buy into that or she will be manipulated until she does.


Definitely need the wife on the same page as you.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:19 am to
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Also, melatonin


I may be in the minority but this is awful advice. Kids don’t need sleep aids. What it does is lower their natural production.
And maybe worse sets up an addictive nature to sleep. “I have to have my pill or I can’t get to sleep.” Awful idea.

It may be for most, but kids on the spectrum handle meds totally different than what you may be used to. Sleep regulation is usually next to impossible, but also one of the biggest benefits to temperment regulation if you can maintain it.
I have a condition that shares a lot of outward symptoms as autism and sleep regulation is one of them. I can go weeks sleeping one or two hours per night and wake up ready to go at 1 or 2 am. The longer I go, the worse I get, until I crash for a day or so.
Medication helps me regulate that better, so the crashes come less frequently and I wish I had it for the first 40 years of my life.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76335 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:20 am to
Try chloroform
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:20 am to
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Seems like if it was such an issue to give a child a very small dose of melatonin a few nights a week they'd pull it off the shelf - or have a warning label at least?




Same reason anything that's bad for you is sold. Do you think the gov't gives a frick about you ? Melatonin is a hormone that is naturally produced. Your kid doesn't need it. You are just a lazy parent
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 8:21 am to
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Jnhad friends whose kids had the child proof door handles on the inside of their bedrooms because they wouldn't settle down.


Not a fan of this art all. What happens if there's an emergency and you kid needs to get out? But about what I would expect some jihads to do.

This is probably not the best advice, but I usually go lay down in my 5 year old's room for a little bit when I put him to bed. We don't really have a problem with him fighting bedtime, I just do it for a little extra time with him because I'm at work all day. He's usually asleep in like 5 minutes, though I usually end up falling asleep for a little bit myself.
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