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re: paratroopers injured tonight at Camp Shelby
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:33 am to Reservoir dawg
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:33 am to Reservoir dawg
I’m assuming night jumps are from a higher altitude?
Morning reports are saying 89 jumped and 22 injured?
Morning reports are saying 89 jumped and 22 injured?
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:46 am to baldona
Morning, hadnt talked to wife at hospital yet. Did hear from a coworker whose husband works at shelby. He said no deaths reported, 22 sent to hosp, and rest treated on site
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:47 am to DavidTheGnome
Especially in that area. They call that whole region the Pine Bet for a reason.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:57 am to teke184
I saw a post this morning that 80 soldiers are accounted for. 4 MIA.
quote:
At 8:00 P.M. this evening the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, United States Army Alaska, conducted an Airborne Operation on Camp Shelby, with approximately 650 Soldiers jumping in to begin a ten-day training exercise. We are still consolidating Soldiers on the drop zone at this time.
Airborne Operations all bear an inherent risk. We strive to mitigate this risk as much as possible. Forrest General Hospital was notified prior to the jump of the potential influx of patients and the types of injuries to be expected and emergency vehicles were on standby on Camp Shelby prior to the jump.
We are grateful for overwhelming support that we have received from units here on Camp Shelby as well as local first responders. The entire community has come together to ensure that we are able to provide expert treatment to any Soldiers who were injured during the Airborne Operation.
Once all Soldiers have been accounted for, our goal is ultimately to continue training. Despite the challenges that we currently face, Soldiers always place the mission first.
** To the families and friends of our Spartan Brigade, any injured paratroopers taken to a hospital will be provided the opportunity to contact their families. There are no life threatening injures at this time. Please stand by as more accurate and up-to-date information becomes available
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:59 am
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:00 am to geauxtigers6492
Army W.T.F. Moments is pretty good about staying on top of stories like this. They have alot of information on their page.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:10 am to jonboy
quote:Did a quick, cursory look on Google maps (satellite view). I can see two areas that look like suitable drop zones for battalion size operations. I would not consider either of them "massive" compared to drop zones at Fort Bragg (Sicily, Nijmegen, Holland, et al).
The DZ at Shelby is massive and gets plenty of use. If it is 80 soldiers, it's a big time frickup.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:44 am to Wolfhound45
I've jumped there. It has good drop zones.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:18 am to Wolfhound45
Wouldn't somebody have cancelled the drop if winds were too high?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:41 am to geauxtigers6492
quote:
Forrest General Hospital was notified prior to the jump of the potential influx of patients and the types of injuries to be expected and emergency vehicles were on standby on Camp Shelby prior to the jump
Is this SOP for a jump? I would have thought jumps were more common, and that a pre-warning wouldn't be normal. But I don't know.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:09 am to baldona
quote:
I’m assuming night jumps are from a higher altitude?
Nope.
The pilots are probably going to lose their certs. They're the ones responsible for accurate CARP drops.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:19 am to DOPEman
I've dropped thousands of paratroopers, there's many different things that can go wrong. It's tough to speculate, but I guarantee the air crew will get screwed regardless.
I've dropped more than once, where the DZO gave me the surface winds 180 degrees out. That can certainly lead to an off DZ drop if you don't recognize the error.
80 folks of DZ would probably mean a formation drop.
Here's hoping there's no serious injuries.
I've dropped more than once, where the DZO gave me the surface winds 180 degrees out. That can certainly lead to an off DZ drop if you don't recognize the error.
80 folks of DZ would probably mean a formation drop.
Here's hoping there's no serious injuries.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:31 am to slacker130
Even if the DZO gave some bad info, the aircrew has to sanity check that shite. They’re ultimately responsible.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:36 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Wouldn't they have night vision video of the whole operation?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:39 am to tgrbaitn08
I would assume but that’s a question for Slackster. But the pilots should have a pretty good idea of what the winds are and if they get something that doesn’t sound right from the DZO(dude on the ground that communicates with the pilots as the approach the drop zone) they should be able to recognize it and either abort the drop or get clarification.
Oh you asked about video. Eh, maybe but doubtful I’d say.
Oh you asked about video. Eh, maybe but doubtful I’d say.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:42 am to slacker130
For sure. I do know this was a Mass Tac on a CARP DZ and from what I'm hearing the winds on the DZ were nil. Still, just speculation and what I have to say on an LSU football message board matters little compared to the shitstorm fallout from this for the aircrew and JM team alike.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:44 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Weird shite happens at Shelby.
We were on an FTX there one night back in 1992 when we were awakened by the sound of live rounds exploding in our area (and before anyone says anything, no, this was no OpFor attack...I know what those sound like and this was nothing like it). After about 3-5 minutes of us all hugging the earth, the shelling stopped.
I never heard any official word on what happened. The nearest we could figure was that it was a night fire exercise of some kind gone fricked up and they got wind of it before anybody got hurt or killed. Scary stuff.
We were on an FTX there one night back in 1992 when we were awakened by the sound of live rounds exploding in our area (and before anyone says anything, no, this was no OpFor attack...I know what those sound like and this was nothing like it). After about 3-5 minutes of us all hugging the earth, the shelling stopped.
I never heard any official word on what happened. The nearest we could figure was that it was a night fire exercise of some kind gone fricked up and they got wind of it before anybody got hurt or killed. Scary stuff.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:46 am to tgrbaitn08
No and even if there was it wouldn't do any good. Generally the only videos taken for official purposes on airborne operations are inside the A/C for the Jumpmasters' sake and focus on exiting procedures.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:53 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Also..
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:13 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:What do you mean?
I'm sure that's what the Air Force wants you to believe.
All he said was 22 soldiers stayed at the hospital because of their injuries
ETA: I see the blown off course part now.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:13 am to baldona
quote:
I’m assuming night jumps are from a higher altitude?
Not necessarily. Most mass tactical drops are from 800-1500 feet, most are 800ft. 300 feet is the minimum.
The single most terrifying moment of my life was my night jump in jump school. Going out the door at 1200 ft into the blackness with the little chem-light dots shining below you is nuts.
The problem with a jump like this is you have so little maneuverability with the T-10 canopy and with the low light from the moon currently, they wouldn't have seen the trees until they were basically in them. They also may not have even been able to drop their rucks in time.
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