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re: Oklahoma Police now have device that seizes $$ from bank card

Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:53 pm to
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The supreme court had a ruling a couple months back making siezure and freezing of funds BEFORE a conviction illegal.


Civil asset forfeiture is terribly corrupt, but still legal...
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3927 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:58 pm to
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"ERAD Group will receive a 7.7 percent cut of all funds seized via the card readers."
Stands to reason there was some assurances of substantial seizures for ERAD to so generously offer the use of their technology. One might simply look "suspicious" because it's time for ERAD to get a Royalty check. How do you prove the source of the money in your bank account on the side of an Oklahoma highway?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:12 pm to
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You're being a argumentative arse now.


In multiple threads...or have you guys missed the shitshow he turned the other cop thread into?

Honestly...please simply see this when you see his name, and allow him to post way without engaging him. You guys wasting your time linking articles are not going to win this one...not because you're not right, but because he'll never admit he's wrong.

Everyone would be better served...



Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15293 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:12 pm to
hey retards,

They can seize the cash on a prepaid card, not ur bank account.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:14 pm to
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.or have you guys missed the shitshow he turned the other cop thread into?


Oh yea, I'm responsible for the shite show in the other thread.
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ou guys wasting your time linking articles are not going to win this one...not because you're not right, but because he'll never admit he's wrong.


Props on reading anything I've said. NYNola can be reasonable and actually reads what I say. You parrot stupidity with no basis. Feel free to ignore me if you like. I'm pretty sure the world will keep spinning.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:14 pm to
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hey retards,

They can seize the cash on a prepaid card, not ur bank account.



Want to know how I know you didn't read the bold print on the first page?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89376 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:15 pm to
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Want to know how I know you didn't read the bold print on the first page?


I know the answer
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31936 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:18 pm to
The key is,they like to do this to people who are not from Oklahoma. It's usually going to be out of state people, that send money out of state.

You wouldn't be subject to the inspection sticker thing.You live in a different state,and your vehicle is registered there.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:18 pm to
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They can seize the cash on a prepaid card, not ur bank account.


Let me help you out here.

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The vehicle-mounted scanners are also capable of retrieving and storing limited account information from other cards as well, such as banking debit cards, credit cards and “payment account information from virtually any magnetic stripe card,” 
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:20 pm to
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The key is,they like to do this to people who are not from Oklahoma. It's usually going to be out of state people, that send money out of state.


Somehow, I feel like this just takes the fun out of road trips.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71828 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:24 pm to
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the officer can use the device to freeze the funds, preventing withdrawal or use of the money in the account,


If it stopped here, it would only be mildly enraging.


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or seize the funds by having them transferred to a law enforcement financial account, the patent states.


But this is absolutely insane and unnecessary, even to the general fricked up point they may think they have.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:29 pm to
I would expect this from a statist liberal democrat but infinity frick anyone who calls themselves a small government conservative and still supports this bullshite theft.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:34 pm to
"Only in cases the trooper suspects"

Cool, innocent until proven guilty. USA, frick yeah!
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:37 pm to
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Only in cases the trooper suspects" 

Cool, innocent until proven guilty. USA, frick yeah!



Well they still have to show probable cause and get a seizure warrant signed and they still have to prove in court that the money is illegal.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:44 pm to
They could just seize the physical prepaid cards, but as always, it's about the revenue.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:47 pm to
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They could just seize the physical prepaid cards, but as always, it's about the revenue.


The owner could still access those funds without the card.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:22 pm to
when i was 19 i bought a machine that i could swipe a card on and i could pull all the information off the card, then print it transfer it to a blank card and use anywhere
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:24 pm to
Fascist as frick
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4478 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:26 pm to
Screw the courts and due process. Roadside drive through justice because "I smell weed."

Sorry bitch, you gotta hitch hike your broke arse through the state of dust and wind. Piss on Oklahoma.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24863 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:28 pm to
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So now they can shoot your dog, kill you, and rob you all at the same time?


They had been receiving feedback from their supervisors that the station could be run more efficiently.
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