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Oklahoma Police now have device that seizes $$ from bank card

Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:59 pm
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The Oklahoma Department of Public Safety has purchased several devices capable of seizing funds loaded on to prepaid debit cards to aid troopers in roadside seizures of suspected drug-trafficking proceeds.


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The vehicle-mounted scanners are also capable of retrieving and storing limited account information from other cards as well, such as banking debit cards, credit cards and “payment account information from virtually any magnetic stripe card,” according to the website and patent documents of the device manufacturer, Texas-based ERAD Group Inc. ERAD stands for Electronic Recovery and Access to Data.


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The card readers will not be used to randomly swipe motorists’ gift or prepaid cards, Vincent said, but only in cases in which the trooper suspects criminal activity is taking place. 


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According to ERAD Group’s patent for the device, law enforcement can determine the balance of money in an account associated with a prepaid card that is part of branded “open loop” networks such as Visa or MasterCard or “closed loop” cards that only allow purchases at a single company, such as gift cards.

When the card is scanned by the officer to check the account balance, the system disguises the balance request as a typical vendor request to prevent alerting suspects that law enforcement is checking the card, the patent states.

Once the card’s account balance is determined, the officer can use the device to freeze the funds, preventing withdrawal or use of the money in the account, or seize the funds by having them transferred to a law enforcement financial account, the patent states.




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Just be careful about how much money you have in your bank account, and you have nothing to fear.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:01 pm to
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Oklahoma Police now have device that seizes $$ from bank card


It's called a Square. Been around for years. It's not James Bond shite.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79639 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:01 pm to
So they've gone beyond just stealing cash from people to now stealing money from their bank accounts?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:02 pm to
And they wonder why people hate them.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:04 pm to
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It's called a Square. Been around for years. It's not James Bond shite.


Square doesn't tell you how much is in the account, and doesn't withdraw $$ without your consent.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:05 pm to
This is an incredibly disturbing invasion of privacy.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:06 pm to
Most cops are garbage.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:06 pm to
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So they've gone beyond just stealing cash from people to now stealing money from their bank accounts?


Only from those suspected of criminal activity, not even charged or convicted. So if a cop thinks you did something, he can take all of the cash in yo bank account using this device.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:06 pm to
So now they can shoot your dog, kill you, and rob you all at the same time?
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:07 pm to
What the hell is the point of this? Since when did drug dealers start using gift cards and bank accounts? This sounds sketchy as hell.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:07 pm to
Cue the " if you are not committing a crime, you have nothing to worry about so no need to overreact" crowd.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:08 pm to
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Square doesn't tell you how much is in the account, and doesn't withdraw $$ without your consent.


It was a joke
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
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What the hell is the point of this? Since when did drug dealers start using gift cards and bank accounts? This sounds sketchy as hell.


Why go after cash when you can take whole bank accounts with the swipe of a card? It makes sense to me.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66487 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
well I will avoid OK more now
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85514 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:11 pm to
Oklahoma sure does love big intrusive government. Bunch of liberals I guess.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:11 pm to
Is that not anyone in Oklahoma who has the cajones to point out how bad this is? I really don't understand why this is not front page news and why everyone -conservative and liberal - is not up in arms about this.

This is worse than traffic cameras. I really wish I was a better wordsmith because this is just beyond reason and belief, but I can't express my shock very well.


ETA: Just what we need - the police with the right to rifle through the credit cards you keep in your wallet (along with membership cards, etc.). This is dictatorship kind of stuff.

Wait until some small town, G.E.D. cop gets one of these.

This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:13 pm
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:12 pm to
Nvm
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:13 pm to
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that not anyone in Oklahoma who has the cajones to point out how bad this is? I really don't understand why this is not front page news and why everyone -conservative and liberal - is not up in arms about this.

This is worse than traffic cameras. I really wish I was a better wordsmith because this is just beyond reason and belief, but I can't express my shock very well.

Wait until some small town, G.E.D. cop gets one of these.


If OK has it, most likely it's coming to a police precinct near you very soon. Just imagine the money they can make off of this.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6726 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:13 pm to
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Just be careful about how much money you have in your bank account, and you have nothing to fea


does not compute with...


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The Oklahoma Department of Public Safety has purchased several devices capable of seizing funds loaded on to prepaid debit cards to aid troopers in roadside seizures of suspected drug-trafficking proceeds.



Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Can't wait for the people who have no clue what this does and assume all cops are gonna steal your money


Forfeitures are bullshite and always have been. It is a terrible way to raise money for the government. Doesn't matter whether they will still your money - some state trooper taking your cards and running them for any purpose is terrible. Do you really think that goon has any business looking at your finances?

I'd end up arrested - because I would fight any cop wanting to go through my credit cards.

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