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re: Oklahoma Police now have device that seizes $$ from bank card
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. But having drug paraphernalia in your car and consenting to a search is pretty stupid. Doesn't excuse taking their assets, but surely we at least agree with that.
And I guess I should disclose that the war on drugs is stupid IMO. But the laws on the books are the laws on the books, so I can't be too mad at them being enforced.
And I guess I should disclose that the war on drugs is stupid IMO. But the laws on the books are the laws on the books, so I can't be too mad at them being enforced.
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
i'd just drop it. He really doesnt have a leg to stand on and his responses are comical. He's just disagreeing to be that guy.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Damn it. Graduated within a year of each other, from Kenner... I hate the fact I probably know you IRL.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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I don't know.
Yes you do.
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Did I say they had it coming to them?
Yes you did when you said this sort of thing only happens to people who "go out looking for it".
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I feel like I never did.
Now I know you're trolling.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:40 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:Look at who you're responding to.
I know you're trolling.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:44 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The county’s district attorney, a fifty-seven-year-old woman with feathered Charlie’s Angels hair named Lynda K. Russell, arrived an hour later. Russell, who moonlighted locally as a country singer, told Henderson and Boatright that they had two options. They could face felony charges for “money laundering” and “child endangerment,” in which case they would go to jail and their children would be handed over to foster care. Or they could sign over their cash to the city of Tenaha, and get back on the road. “No criminal charges shall be filed,” a waiver she drafted read, “and our children shall not be turned over to CPS,” or Child Protective Services.
Every last motherfricker involved in this criminal scheme should be facing everything from corruption, theft, blackmail, to RICO charges.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:47 pm to LNCHBOX
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Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. But having drug paraphernalia in your car and consenting to a search is pretty stupid. Doesn't excuse taking their assets, but surely we at least agree with that.
And I guess I should disclose that the war on drugs is stupid IMO. But the laws on the books are the laws on the books, so I can't be too mad at them being enforce
I can agree with like 60% of that. It counts.
That doesn't include the really outrageous story of a Philly DA seizing a person's house because his son sold a very small amount of drugs out of it.
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The nightmare began when police showed up at the house and arrested their 22-year-old son, Yianni, on drug charges -- $40 worth of heroin. Authorities say he was selling drugs out of the home. The Sourvelises say they had no knowledge of any involvement their son might have had with drugs.
A month-and-a-half later police came back -- this time to seize their house, forcing the Sourvelises and their children out on the street that day. Authorities came with the electric company in tow to turn off the power and even began locking the doors with screws, the Sourvelises say. Authorities won't comment on the exact circumstances because of pending litigation regarding the case.
Police and prosecutors came armed with a lawsuit against the house itself. It was being forfeited and transferred to the custody of the Philadelphia District Attorney. Authorities said the house was tied to illegal drugs and therefore subject to civil forfeiture.
In two years, nearly 500 families in Philadelphia had their homes or cars taken away by city officials, according to records from Pennsylvania's attorney general.
CNN
Shocker: no charges filed against the homeowner.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:49 pm to NYNolaguy1
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That doesn't include the really outrageous story of a Philly DA seizing a person's house because his son sold a very small amount of drugs out of it.
I don't like that story at all, but we are getting away from cops stealing all your money on the side of the road with no cause.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:51 pm to LNCHBOX
Same shite, different asset. Asset is asset.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:52 pm to EastNastySwag
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Same shite, different asset. Asset is asset.
It's not the same, but OK.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:55 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The card readers will not be used to randomly swipe motorists’ gift or prepaid cards, Vincent said, but only in cases in which the trooper suspects criminal activity is taking place.
Suuuuuuurrrrrreeeee...
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:57 pm to fr33manator
Nothing like having some state cop deciding out on the road whether some criminal activity is taking place ... what a bunch of bullshite cops.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:57 pm to fr33manator
Lunchbox says quit being paranoid. This only happens to criminals.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:00 pm to LNCHBOX
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You ever noticed that stuff like this doesn't happen to people that don;t go out looking for it?
This guy thinks you're an idiot
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:00 pm to EastNastySwag
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Lunchbox says quit being paranoid. This only happens to criminals.
LNCHBOX never said it only happens to criminals.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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I don't like that story at all, but we are getting away from cops stealing all your money on the side of the road with no cause.
Fair enough.
You'll then be interested to hear about another dicksonian practice formerly prevalent in NYC but still prevalent elsewhere, where a person pulled over for DWI gets incarcerated and the bail set so high he can't get out. Meanwhile, while still in jail awaiting trial, the car he was driving is siezed and sold. Only once he gets out he learns that lost in civil court and he doesn't have a car. Criminal charges were often dropped only after the civil trial was complete.
In other words, if you charge a person with enough crimes, you can seize anyone's car because they cant fight it in court, regardless of guilt.
Krimstock v. Kelley
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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Won't happen to me. I don't do criminal things and don't spout off at cops.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:02 pm to EastNastySwag
That doesn't say it only happens to criminals.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:05 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:You're being a argumentative arse now.
There is nothing obtuse about it. I wouldn't drive a vehicle that I bought while it was still titled to a stranger. That's asking for trouble.
We know that every cop won't be fricking over every single person stopped. Some people will be royally fricked in the arse by this, though. That's a problem.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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That doesn't say it only happens to criminals.
I can agree with that.
Would you then agree that innocent people should be concerned it could happen to them?
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