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re: NY Times Op-Ed: Good parents are hurting schools
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:18 pm to I-59 Tiger
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:18 pm to I-59 Tiger
thanks for the spelling lesson chief. anything of value to add to this thread ?
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:18 pm to Klark Kent
quote:how many are there for football?
Although, I think some of the non-core jobs do need to be cut. For example, there are 3 primary Theater teachers and 2 assistant Theater teachers at my wife's school. How the frick is 6 adult salaries necessary for theater? theater?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:20 pm to Klark Kent
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Klark Kent
Klein?
They really tried to sneak that vote by y’all
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:21 pm to chalmetteowl
not enough. they went 2-7 last year.
yeah, they did. fricking horseshite.
i would really like to see the vote count for the 45% of registered voters who showed up who actually voted in favor of it. Because every single person I was in line near had 0 intentions of voting yes. Same for neighbors and friends.
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Klein?
They really tried to sneak that vote by y’all
yeah, they did. fricking horseshite.
i would really like to see the vote count for the 45% of registered voters who showed up who actually voted in favor of it. Because every single person I was in line near had 0 intentions of voting yes. Same for neighbors and friends.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:28 pm to Klark Kent
quote:those calls from Dr. Champion every day we're not doing it for you?
Klark Kent
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:31 pm to Rouge
Nah, career and education in education. His opinion means dick to me.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 5:29 pm to chalmetteowl
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how many are there for football?
Most public school football coaches teach classes and get a small stipend for coaching. Also, people pay to watch football and many football programs are self supportive.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 5:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
That's generally true, but Texas CAN be a bit of a different animal.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:17 pm to High C
I guess credit should go to the Montgomery Al public schools. They are all equal as reflected by test scores.
Incidentally, the State board of education took over the Montgomery school system.
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Incidentally, the State board of education took over the Montgomery school system.
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In the Montgomery Public School System, accountability indicators show the system with a 78.6 percent graduation rate, nine points below the state average. The system scores just a 43 for college and career readiness when compared to a state level of 66. It also trails the state average for academic growth 79.8 to 87.8 and academic achievement 45 to 60. Absenteeism, the percentage of students with more than 15 days of absences, stands at 16.5 percent. That’s under the state average of 17.6.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:23 pm to High C
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Sadly, those who often bring these lawsuits have no personal stake in the outcome.
That's why, IMO, 'standing' is such a joke.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:44 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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All parents want the best for their children, but a key goal of public education is to create citizens with a vision of a common good.
That’s fricking rich.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:48 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:49 pm to kengel2
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You think poor people don't care?
In groups? They absolutely DGAF.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
None of this is about "helping" the lower class. It never has been. It's all about dragging down the middle-upper classes. By nipping potential overachievers in the bud at the lower educational level (surrounding them with a terrible educational environment) the hope is to make everyone equally ignorant and manipulable.
Educational success has never been about money, it's about environment (both at home and in the school). I went to a very poor, very small school (graduating class of 25). We couldn't even afford to hire a real Spanish or Calculus teacher, so I took both online. It didn't matter. Myself and plenty of others went on to get STEM degrees, graduate from professional schools, and outcompeted most of our classmates in college who went to high end/magnet schools. Why? Because we wanted it more. Because our parents and teachers had pushed us since we were old enough to read to want more for ourselves, to be more than they were.
And nowhere along that road to success did they say you would get there by whining and stealing from others. Earn it yourself or deal with the consequences.
Educational success has never been about money, it's about environment (both at home and in the school). I went to a very poor, very small school (graduating class of 25). We couldn't even afford to hire a real Spanish or Calculus teacher, so I took both online. It didn't matter. Myself and plenty of others went on to get STEM degrees, graduate from professional schools, and outcompeted most of our classmates in college who went to high end/magnet schools. Why? Because we wanted it more. Because our parents and teachers had pushed us since we were old enough to read to want more for ourselves, to be more than they were.
And nowhere along that road to success did they say you would get there by whining and stealing from others. Earn it yourself or deal with the consequences.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:32 pm to fr33manator
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I am ashamed it took 5 pages for this to be corrected.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:33 pm to yoga girl
Life’s not fricking fair or equal. Stop acting like it is.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:32 am to TH03
quote:They're obviously filled with kids that don't care becuase of their shitty home life, but you're being willfully naive if you think inner city kids have equal opportunities. You're also assuming teachers care just as much in public schools in the inner city comparably.
Poorly equipped or filled with kids who have a shitty home life and just don’t care? You don’t need much to teach a willing student.
I'm certainly not advocating Yoga Girl's nonsense of taking from the wealthy to give to the poor, but many kids are at a huge disadvantage, that's obvious.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:48 am to Bjorn Cyborg
I wonder how often changing school districts in an attempt to prop up crappy schools has worked? I know it didn't work in Ascension when they tried to prop up East Ascension High by changing up the lines.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:10 am to yoga girl
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Lower income districts clearly have economic obstacles to create "equal" schools. It is time to share the wealth (here, I'd think we would need some type of property tax surcharge).
No thanks.
We already spend a lot more per kid in poor districts. More money won't solve the at home problem unless we're removing them all from their homes and putting them in some type of boarding schools. But then the sky screamers would care about separating kids from their parents again for optics.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:33 am to tylercsbn9
The solution is to create public boarding schools, possibly military type atmospheres, where kids are taken out of bad home environments and given discipline and 3 meals a day. The only way to break the cycle of learned dependence is to take kids out of that situation and show them that there is a better way. Also, I 100% agree with taking discipline problems and separating them from the kids that do want to learn.
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