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re: NY Times Op-Ed: Good parents are hurting schools

Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Who doesn’t have this?


Kids in the inner city. How can you have equal opportunity when your school system doesn't offer 1/10 that of the big wealthy schools?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Support vouchers or shut the frick up


Vouchers will never become commonplace for a very pragmatic reason - good students would flee low performing public schools and no one wants to deal with that aftermath.

I'm not against vouchers, btw. They kind of make sense. But, the teachers' unions and government entities will never let them become common.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:26 pm to
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NY Times Op-Ed: Good parents are hurting schools


Yeah, lets not figure out how we can elevate the dredges of society. Let's bring society down to the dredges.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:27 pm to
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People laughed a few years ago when that Australia study/whatever said that reading to your kids was a sign of privilege and you shouldn't do it so much because it creates a disadvantage for poor kids



That's like saying "your kid's basketball team has better resources than the team they are playing next week so we will need your kid to back off on doing anything that would make him a better player".

If you don't have competition, what do you really have? Seriously.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:27 pm to
They should get rid of schools and teachers and make all children take online classes with a proctor
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:30 pm to
Poorly equipped or filled with kids who have a shitty home life and just don’t care? You don’t need much to teach a willing student.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Poorly equipped or filled with kids who have a shitty home life and just don’t care? You don’t need much to teach a willing student.


Both.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58629 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Cultural and economic Marxism strike again

when is the masses going to start realizing that every agenda these vocal minorities are pushing racism and fascism, And calling out the opposition as racist and fascist, are in fact the ones who are being racist and fascist.


It is crazy, the people who are throwing the stones, are blaming the stone throwing on the people that they are getting the stones thrown at them. And the media is glorifying that.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46693 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:46 pm to
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We have rewarded the uber wealthy and there has to be limits on that wealth and income. This isn't punishment. Everyone else is punished (by being paid wages no one could live on) by wealth and income hording.


Spoken like someone who has truly never had to work for anything in their life

It's funny that the most vocal about the rich being "too rich"...are usually already rich.

In other words: I got mine. frick you.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58629 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:49 pm to
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Lower income districts clearly have economic obstacles to create "equal" schools.
they get the same funding as schools with higher income neighborhoods. It isnt whitey's fault the cultured cant keep their neighborhood's in better economic standing.
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It is time to share the wealth
GTFO Commie. Why do you people think that you should be given everything.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26334 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:51 pm to
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Motivated by a fierce desire to protect their children and themselves from difficulty, and armed with a robust sense of entitlement


Thats pretty ironic considering that those affluent families are the ones paying the bulk of the tax money that goes towards funding all the welfare, section 8, food stamps, medicaid, and other forms of entitlement for the lower class.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78024 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Kids in the inner city. How can you have equal opportunity when your school system doesn't offer 1/10 that of the big wealthy schools?


Look at school spending per student.

Scruffy has only ever looked at Louisiana’s records, but the failing schools very frequently spend thousands more per student than those with high marks.

Money is not, nor has it ever been, the issue.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60138 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Motivated by a fierce desire to protect their children and themselves from getting beat up for being white


Fixed it for them
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47713 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Let's bring everybody down to the ghetto level so it's all "equal"


How did that work out for Baton Rouge?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62150 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:54 pm to
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I have a friend who works at one of the lower echelon schools in Dallas and the disruptive, troublesome students ruin it for those who want to actually learn something and move forward with their lives. She says that the parents also enable them.


So why take those troublesome, parent enabled students and pump them into the schools where the parents and students care. It's stupid and irresponsible, and it is happening all the time. I can point to some districts in Louisiana where this practice has completely destroyed a district that was functioning just fine prior to the action.

You're also contradicting yourself itt.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26334 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:56 pm to
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Lower income districts clearly have economic obstacles to create "equal" schools.

They get state funding for schools to make up for less local tax revenue to fund. The lack of equal schools is because lower income areas tend to have a much higher percentage of parents that DGAF when it comes to raising their kids, so those kids DGAF in school and fail and/or have disciplinary problems and bring the overall school down.

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It is time to share the wealth (here, I'd think we would need some type of property tax surcharge).

There already is. Property tax is based on the value of the home. Someone with a $100k house is paying almost nothing in property tax if they have homestead exemption. Someone in $500k house is paying a whole lot more in taxes.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78024 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:56 pm to
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So why take those troublesome, parent enabled students and pump them into the schools where the parents and students care. It's stupid and irresponsible, and it is happening all the time. I can point to some districts in Louisiana where this practice has completely destroyed a district that was functioning just fine prior to the action.

You're also contradicting yourself itt.

Her position makes no sense.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:05 pm to
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There are consequences to this phenomenon of “opportunity hoarding” by well-to-do parents.


Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:13 pm to
Gentrification actually benefits the original residents more than harms them. In fact, there was a very informative piece on this on the economist the other day backed up with hard facts with each assertion.

When people tell me gentrification is a bad thing, I immediately know they’re stupid. And I very rarely use that word to describe people.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:21 pm to
This is why I live in Williamson Co, TN. If this is a crime, I’m guilty as they come
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