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re: New Yorker Article: Everyone Is Cheating Their Way Through College
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:26 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:26 pm to Ace Midnight
All of higher education is toast. Limestone and Birmingham Southern have both closed in the last year.
Tuition costs are too high and will never come down as long as the government continues to provide students with loans and grants.
St Francis (PA) went from D1 to D3 (Non scholarship) sports 2 months ago because of the financial burden and added expenses of NIL at the D1 level.
Massive constriction is needed to correct these problems.
Tuition costs are too high and will never come down as long as the government continues to provide students with loans and grants.
St Francis (PA) went from D1 to D3 (Non scholarship) sports 2 months ago because of the financial burden and added expenses of NIL at the D1 level.
Massive constriction is needed to correct these problems.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:40 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I can only assume you are an hourly laborer if you don’t write as part of your job
You assume poorly.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:43 pm to Ace Midnight
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I just find that it hallucinates and makes shite up too often for me to fully trust it, so I have to validate its results independently - which defeats the purpose.
Exactly. Blind trust in what it's spitting out is the real danger.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:44 pm to freshtigerbait
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However i hope they have a textbook open to fact check the bot
Textbooks are digital. You can literally load the text into AI to ground it.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:45 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Back in the day it was buying already written essays off websites or other students though.
I was selling them.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:49 pm to AbitaFan08
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With all due respect, I cheated the frick my way through undergrad and I was gone by 2009.
I cheated my way through HS, but I was scared to risk it in college. The one time I remember cheating is when someone gave me a copy of the final exam that was somehow stolen from the instructor. I made a 96% on the final. It was more of a time saving issue. I didn't have to spend nearly as much time studying for that exam.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:50 pm to RLDSC FAN
The real problem I have with college kids using AI is they have no context as to whether the answers are right or wrong. If they are using it as a tool to check calculations I have no issue, but if all they have is AI, that's going to be a problem.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:50 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Proud to say I made it through a difficult program with 0.0% cheating done.
frick a cheater. Its theft.
we made a sport of cheating sometimes in HS.
But I respected the code in college...and had just enough fear to not want to be kicked out.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:09 pm to Bama Bird
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I forget the name, but we used a program in law school that basically locked you out of anything but the actual exam so I'm assuming the issue is coming more from papers and essays, not necessarily exams.
Respondus lockdown browser
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:10 pm to Grievous Angel
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we made a sport of cheating sometimes in HS.
Yeah, frick high school.. I went to public school, it wasn't until I got to college that I realized how much it didn't prepare you for college. But evidently all the standardized testing is supposed to be the answer.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:11 pm to RLDSC FAN
They are too busy coding and welding for a billlion dollars an hour to write papers, yo.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
Finding a more efficient way to access data is not cheating unless you consider the only appropriate way to get data is shifting through a card catalog and pulling the reference from the stacks.
AI makes getting info easier.
Using it to compose a complete report is a different story if it does the actual writing for you.
AI makes getting info easier.
Using it to compose a complete report is a different story if it does the actual writing for you.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:53 pm to Eighteen
quote:Damnit, has that idiot never seen Terminator?
a student in Utah recently captioned a video of herself copy-and-pasting a chapter from her Genocide and Mass Atrocity textbook into ChatGPT
It's going to be entirely her fault when humankind is slaughtered.
She should be pasting hippie shite into the murderbots.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:55 pm to AbitaFan08
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With all due respect, I cheated the frick my way through undergrad and I was gone by 2009.
But you're an LSU fan. No one expected better from you.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
The only thing we had was Cliffs Notes. I know, I know, "back in my day."
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:54 pm to bountyhunter
It’s an interesting phenomenon for sure. It used to be if you didn’t understand something you asked about it in class or office hours. Now you have students that already have social anxiety and never have to even attempt to get over it. Giving a lecture with power point slides, the students all want the files to load and ask the AI to delve deeper and explain concepts. I’m all for learning the material any way you need to, but I’ve noticed that it kinda keeps students from every attempting to change how they approach problems, which isn’t great for real world engineering problems.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:03 pm to The Boat
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What this country needs is even less people knowing how to write. People are already retarded.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:06 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:Ah yes....business ethics.
With all due respect, I cheated the frick my way through undergrad and I was gone by 2009.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
Using AI to compile research articles isn't cheating, its using a free or low cost tool to do hours of labor in virtually seconds. That's just smart.
Using one to right a paper is cheating, using one to research that paper certainly isn't cheating.
I know college professors at LSU who use AI to make their assignments, even the rationales... is that cheating the student? AI writing an assignment is certainly cheaper than a professor writing it, maybe they should lower prices.
Using one to right a paper is cheating, using one to research that paper certainly isn't cheating.
I know college professors at LSU who use AI to make their assignments, even the rationales... is that cheating the student? AI writing an assignment is certainly cheaper than a professor writing it, maybe they should lower prices.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:48 pm to Hangover Haven
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Back in the day we had to write formulas on the inside cover of our calculators.
Calculator - a computer that does the work of math for you.
Why are we bitching about AI? We have all been cheating for decades.
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