re: New York Times: Gen Z can't afford the rent

I’m assuming by “in Houston” he meant “not in Houston”

I guess that makes sense

I had something written about that general idea but deleted it. Everyone is quick to say “move somewhere” cheaper, that that will almost always be accurate when it comes to nyc, la, Bay Area, dc, Boston, and maybe a few others, but in general your salary will be in line with where you are.

It really doesn’t help that good jobs are increasingly condensed in those metros, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Nashville, and south Florida. If you’re an ambitious professional, you’re probably going to have to live in one of those areas… at least starting our

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The trades are paying better than ever because we’ve told an entire generation that a women’s studies degree is more important than electricians

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You really belive that don't you? Less than 25% of American have a college education. Yet it is some kind of anchor on the trades?

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I’m curious to where the Houston guy’s kid bought. Of the people I know that can afford to buy in the city, most are double income professionals or if single in big law/finance. I’d say that’s probably the norm for most big cities right now.

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They are right in or near downtown. 2 person income, but their vehicles are paid off. They live in a small 2 bedroom and 1.5 bath. I’ll ask her how to best describe her area of Houston, I just remember big buildings and being terrified of driving

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Let’s say the average engineer makes 100k. He can’t afford the average existing house at about 420k. That’s probably a problem

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1) My first home was $290k.
2) Maybe don't buy a home when your starting out and wait until your married (Dual income)?

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I guess that makes sense

I had something written about that general idea but deleted it. Everyone is quick to say “move somewhere” cheaper, that that will almost always be accurate when it comes to nyc, la, Bay Area, dc, Boston, and maybe a few others, but in general your salary will be in line with where you are.

It really doesn’t help that good jobs are increasingly condensed in those metros, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Nashville, and south Florida. If you’re an ambitious professional, you’re probably going to have to live in one of those areas… at least starting our

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yea crazy thing about engineering is the salaries in the industrial arena along the gulf coast are as good or better than those in the really high COL places like NYC and Cali. its actually not unheard of for them to be more unless you are at an industrial plant their too. its kind of crazy like that.

Civil is kind of the exception but even then industrial salaries are going to be similar to the higher cities.

example a civil in NYC avg salary is $101k...avg salary for a civil in LC with say 5 years experience would be more.

even on indeed civil in LA is listed as making 6% more than NYC

avg in la is listed as 98, SF..106, SD..98......point is...make more than that in the plants with 5 years experience.

as mentioned..for some reason engineering isnt as valued in high Cost of living places and salaries are not adjusted accordingly.

IMHO, America has basically priced itself out of near- universal middle class prosperity. Sure, women who have spent thousands on tats and eating out aren't the most sympathetic, but the basic point that it's expensive AF to live in this country remains.

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1) My first home was $290k.

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oh wow that’s interesting and relevant

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Maybe don't buy a home when your starting out and wait until your married (Dual income)?

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just lol. Everything is fine when a median engineer can’t afford a median house (and isn’t even close tbh)