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re: New survey: 41% of US adults and 66% of Millennials can't identify Auschwitz

Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
Gary Johnson ran for president and didn't know what Aleppo was or where it was located.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Considering that history courses never even make it to WWII until the year runs out, I'm not surprised.




It is distrubing how many people suggest that if it wasn't taught in school people can't know it. Information is available after you stop your formal education. I suspect most functioning adults learn more outside of a classroom than they do in one.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:59 pm to
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There were also Gypsies, Slavs, Homosexuals, and other minority groups slaughtered as well.

Also, mentally disabled.
Plus, how many did the Gestapo just shoot down because of not properly "honoring" the Fuhrer?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74653 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Also, mentally disabled.
Plus, how many did the Gestapo just shoot down because of not properly "honoring" the Fuhrer?



True. In fact the first victims of the Nazis were German elderly, disabled, and even infants. And as for the Gestapo, in the final stages of the war they were rounding up old German men and little boys and hanging them from lamp posts.
Posted by NDA13112
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:20 pm to
I agree the overall results are surprising but how exactly was that question posed? "Can you identify Auschwitz?" What exactly do they mean? Can you identify the location of Auschwitz on a map? Can you identify a photo of Auschwitz out of a group of photos of concentration camps? A no answer to either of those wouldn't be surprising at all. If the question was "Do you know what Auschwitz is?" with the correct answer being concentration camp, then that percentage of no answers is extremely surprising. Even with that though, if this was the first question in a survey that where the topic of the survey was completely unknown or if it was one question in a survey that had other questions completely unrelated to the holocust included, then I could certainly see a decent percentage of people not being able to put the word "Auschwitz" in context and saying not sure/incorrect response. I imagine the percentages would change pretty drastically if the question was changed to "As it relates to the holocaust, can you identify what Auschwitz is?"
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:33 pm to
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I agree the overall results are surprising but how exactly was that question posed? "Can you identify Auschwitz?"


Looking at the actual survey, I don't see the actual questions posed, but there is a table in regards to the Auschwitz question.

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Table 2. Identification of Auschwitz
Statement % US Adults Agree
Concentration Camp 40%
Death/Extermination Camp 23%
Forced Labor Camp 1%
Not sure/Incorrect response 41%



Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:38 pm to
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New survey: 41% of US adults and 66% of Millennials can't identify Auschwitz
I wonder what % can identify Jim Crow - which happened in their own country AND much more recently.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:52 pm to
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I wonder what % can identify Jim Crow - which happened in their own country AND much more recently.



Jim Crow was reprehensible and a national shame. But you can’t honestly be comparing it to the Holocaust. You can’t be that fricking stupid.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40176 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Jim Crow was reprehensible and a national shame. But you can’t honestly be comparing it to the Holocaust. You can’t be that fricking stupid.


If you feel the need to compare it, go ahead. I'm pointing out it was a 100-year atrocity that actually happened in this country. And I'm guessing a bigger % of adults/millennials are ignorant of it.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:18 pm to
Thank you standardized testing that turned everything into a game of who can memorize these 20 trivia questions for a week and if they can't at least learn how to get rid of the wrong multiple choice answers! We couldn't have done it w/o you!
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:20 pm to
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I wonder what % can identify Jim Crow


I'd like to see the breakdown by race.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8592 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:29 pm to
Where did they get this sample? I'm a millennial and I've seen about every documentary on WWII that's available. The World at War is the GOAT of those btw.

Going further, I've found that a large proportion of people in my age range are also fascinated by WWII. I mean shite, The Diary of Anne Frank was required reading when I was in high school.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8592 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:32 pm to
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If you feel the need to compare it, go ahead. I'm pointing out it was a 100-year atrocity that actually happened in this country. And I'm guessing a bigger % of adults/millennials are ignorant of it.


Again, I have no idea how one could be living in America and have never heard of the Jim Crow era. Especially living in this era of sensitivity
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Where did they get this sample?


Consider who did the survey "Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany", you think the NAACP is going to field a survey that finds racial relatiojnships are improving?
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:11 pm to
Too busy being taught how to pass a government required test to learn actual stuff.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30428 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:15 pm to
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It is distrubing how many people suggest that if it wasn't taught in school people can't know it.


I'm not suggesting that at all.

I'm suggesting that more people responding to a survey would know it if it was taught.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60158 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:24 pm to
Oy vey I'm ra'ing this thread. You all should observe 60 seconds of silence for the 60 million killed as penance for reckless questioning
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41870 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:33 pm to
Isn't there some dispute as to the authenticity of the diary*?












*Trust me, not going all goldennugget here. But I've read there are some questions about this particular literature.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8592 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:47 pm to
No clue, but I'm pretty sure it's still used in school. Despite anyone's opinion on it's legitimacy, it should still serve to educate people on the holocaust
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:53 pm to
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41% of US adults and 66% of Millennials can't identify Auschwitz


but....

quote:

Majority of Americans Polled Believe Something Like the Holocaust Could Happen Again


so which is it we dont know about something we believe will happen again
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