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re: New B-52 engines will keep em flying for 100 years.

Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:42 pm to
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Airplanes have only existed for 117 years.


We've gone from this.....





To this.....



Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11748 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:48 pm to
Built nearly 60 years ago. Is there any scrap of that plane that is actually original?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28373 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:53 pm to
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see, that right there is why we elected trump.

any other president would just sign a blank check and say go build something completely new, trump asks why we cant just change engines?




you realize they have been discussing this since before trump was in office right?

and also that isnt how it works at all... the military has a budget and they decide how to spend it, not the president. the DoD knows they'll be around a lot longer than whoever is in office at any given point

I wish people constantly gave me credit for things they like that I had absolutely nothing to do with
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 11:55 pm
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28373 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:54 pm to
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Built nearly 60 years ago. Is there any scrap of that plane that is actually original?


interested in this also
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:02 am to
This is the second time the AF has proposed replacing the engines with a modern design. I believe it was the early 1980s, they had decided on using 4 GE turbofans as used on the 747. But some DOD bean counter looked at the fuel consumption of the existing engine compared to the new engines, and determined that for the cost of replacing the engines they could operate the existing engines for another 20 years, and killed the upgrade. Several years later it was discovered that when comparing operational cost the analyst had used a simple comparison based only on the cost of fuel. The additional cost of in air fueling which would largely be eliminated with the new engines was not factored into the comparison.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:08 am to
Is there anything a bean counter can't frick up?
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13879 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 12:54 am to
The airplane equivalent of a Toyota Landcruiser?
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3662 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:16 am to
For the AF baws, are BUFFs still at the bottom of the class out of UPT?
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17216 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:18 am to
Can’t be no cat diesel. Summbitches always breaking.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:34 am to
Good. B-52s are a testament to American engineering and it shows when you build in America, it’s built to last.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32431 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:37 am to
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The new engines could allow a B-52 to fly to any point on Earth without refueling.


But how far afterwards could they fly? Drop a bomb on exactly the farthest point in the Earth from where your at, then how far to get away?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24679 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 5:18 am to
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New B-52 engines will keep em flying for 100 years.


Do they have to re-rivet from time to time to hold the frame and skin together?

Yeah, high bypass engines make sense. I'm all for it.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 5:22 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24679 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 5:25 am to
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Is it a large high bypass turbofan engine like here in these renderings because if so, a rendering is one thing but reality is another as it remains to be seen whether or not the airframe and the wings can support that much weight and maintain enough clearance between the engine and the ground

Think 737. Just not 737 Max. They can sling high bypass engines under the wing.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:41 am to
I’d say they’re usually at the lower end of the T-38 track. Not sure if you can get them out of T-1s or not. When I went through UPT you couldn’t, but the AF goes back and forth on it.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:45 am to
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New B-52 engines will keep em flying for 100 years.



How will they switch out pilots when they die of old age?
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:58 am to
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Very cool! Had no idea they could last that long.


I wish I could last as long as a B-52 Bomber.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74667 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:59 am to
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Very cool! Had no idea they could last that long.


TWSS

But this would be huge if this engine pans out. There are already B-52 pilots flying the same bomber their grandfather flew. That’s just hard to fathom. For comparison, If the army did this with tanks I’d have been on this.


Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3836 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:03 am to
My grandfather flew these in WWII and several years afterwards. He was part of the Berlin airlift and a whole bunch of other crazy bombing missions. His planes were often hit with artillery or shrapnel and cane back looking like Swiss cheese. Luckily, the military put steel underneath the captains seats and on his last mission of the war, an artillery shell went through the bottom of the plane and busted his legs all up. That steel saved his life and his crew. He was in a hospital bed for 18 months afterwards and walked with a limp/cane for the rest of his life.

Not only are these birds amazing feats of engineering but the people who flew them are some of the greatest too.

Edited for my stupidity. Check with my dad and it was a B-24 not a B-52. Either way, my grandfather still was a badass pilot.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3451 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:09 am to
The B-52 didn’t exist during WW 2. It went into service in 1955.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
92675 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:11 am to
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another thing that this will do is reduce the need for tankers...and that is a BIG deal!!!!
Naw with the shite show KC-46 failing at every turn, the KC-135 which is as old as the BUFF is in high demand. The number of BUFFS flying is minimal in relation to all the other aircraft the tankers support to include Navy assets and foreign refuelings, not to mention training sorties for all the pipe line pilots.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 7:14 am
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