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re: New B-52 engines will keep em flying for 100 years.

Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:58 pm to
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nother thing that this will do is reduce the need for tankers...and that is a BIG deal!!!!

Just think.... the money they have dumped into the KC-46 (an existing platform at that) could have bought hundreds of engines!
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:00 pm to
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Amazing. I won't be around to see 100 years of the B-52 but that is some awesome shite.



"It may not be your father's air force, but it might be his plane"
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:02 pm to
Sorry. Accidental thumb downvote.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:18 pm to
see, that right there is why we elected trump.

any other president would just sign a blank check and say go build something completely new, trump asks why we cant just change engines?
Posted by BCLA
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:24 pm to
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I don’t k ow how good I’d feel flying around in a 100+ yr old plane


They say the fleet surprisingly doesn't have a ton of air miles for their age which is part of the plan to keep them going even longer.

Although those of us who live around Barksdale AFB find the air miles part hard to believe
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:26 pm to
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I don’t k ow how good I’d feel flying around in a 100+ yr old plane




My thoughts as well. Metal fatigue is a thing.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:39 pm to
OK. OK. War story: on several occasions in Vietnam I was close enough to a B52 bombing run to experience caving in of the chest, shaking, and almost poo poo my pants. Imagine 500 lb bombs going off sequentially almost like a giant automatic weapon. That was 50 years ago with ancient technology and old WW2 style “iron bombs”. Didn’t know they were coming. Never saw or heard the aircraft. Imagine what those planes can deliver now. (Also, they’re probably the reason Berliners aren’t speaking Russian today.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:41 pm to
Stratofortress

Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:50 pm to
It’s about time we re-engine them. They are simple/effective. They need to be more efficient, and engine tech has come a long way. I didn’t see it mentioned, but will this reduce the number of engines to 4? They only thing mentioned was they were still seeking the same power
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:01 pm to
What kind of engine are we talking about here?

Is it a large high bypass turbofan engine like here in these renderings because if so, a rendering is one thing but reality is another as it remains to be seen whether or not the airframe and the wings can support that much weight and maintain enough clearance between the engine and the ground.



This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:02 pm to
DP.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 11:02 pm
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:03 pm to
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DP

TWSS
Posted by Athis
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:13 pm to
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Metal fatigue is a thing.



It is but I believe that due to the design and how they are maintained that it's not as much an issue as one would think.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:14 pm to
Yeah I'm pretty sure this has been considered.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:19 pm to
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OK. OK. War story: on several occasions in Vietnam I was close enough to a B52 bombing run to experience caving in of the chest, shaking, and almost poo poo my pants.


I was about two miles south of the DMZ and all we ever saw of the 52s were blinking red lights way up in the starry sky. About 15-20 minutes later the horizon would light up. Arc Lighting at work.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:22 pm to
Metal fatigue? I’m sure it’s a factor but then I don’t think they would pull much g-force on a regular basis.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:22 pm to
Airplanes have only existed for 117 years. The B-52 has been in the air for more than half of that time: 68 of those years.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 11:35 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:32 pm to
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My thoughts as well. Metal fatigue is a thing.

They've upgraded structural parts over the years. I don't think there are 100% original airframes still in the air. The whole thing doesn't start hitting fatigue limits at once, so they've been able to replace parts as they find fatigue problems during inspections and keep them flying.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:40 pm to
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Metal fatigue?


I'm not sure of it's the same for military jets, but with commercial aircraft it's how many cycles (takeoffs and landings) the airframe is subjected to. There are other factors involved, but a high number of cycles is major cause of metal fatigue.
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