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Muslim holidays will be "recognized" in California under bill

Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:12 am
Posted by UFFan
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:12 am
As an atheist, I have to say, oh lordy.

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Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:14 am to
So, does that mean California government workers get the entire month of Ramadan off?
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 9:15 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:17 am to
Texas has been doing this and Indian ones for years


I remember when Buccees was closed for Diwali a few years ago when I was passing through
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 9:18 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:23 am to
While it could eventually creep into something worse, the way this is written isn’t all that bad. It allows (but doesn’t mandate) schools close on those days if they want to. It keeps all other governmental agencies open. It allows employees of other agencies to take up to 8 hours of vocation time in lieu of personal vacation time.

Now, I appreciate that there will be people who argue that any recognition of Islam, or of any religion other than Christianity, is inherently problematic. But outside of that kind of analysis, this bill doesn’t seem unreasonable.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:24 am to
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So, does that mean California government workers get the entire month of Ramadan off?

Nop.

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According to the bill analysis, AB 2017 authorizes K-12 public schools and community colleges to close on the first day of the month of Shawwal in the Islamic lunar calendar (Eid al-Fitr) and on the 10th day of Dhu al-Hijjah (Eid al-Adha). It establishes both as state holidays and authorizes any state employee to elect eight hours of holiday credit of each in lieu of eight hours of personal holiday credit. The bill excludes these holidays from judicial holidays and allows public schools and community colleges to close on those days if local boards and labor unions agree. The State Board of Education may also develop a model curriculum guide.
Posted by Black n Gold
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:24 am to
Funny how athiest don't go hard at Muslims. All religions have some practices worth poking fun of, with Muslim's have the most ridiculous by far.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:26 am to
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All religions have some practices worth poking fun of, with Muslim's have the most ridiculous by far.


What criteria are you using to make this determination?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:26 am to
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Funny how athiest don't go hard at Muslims. All religions have some practices worth poking fun of, with Muslim's have the most ridiculous by far.

We do. How often do you actually hang around with atheists?
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:27 am to
Non muslims are idiots. (The ones in positions of policy making)

The muhammadists haven't changed their strategy in the 14 centuries since an illiterate nomad began to gather followers by stitching together the most radical and violent teaching of the many heretical pop up religions of the first 5 or 6 centuries.

Even dogs learn to avoid the mean and hateful people once they've been beaten a few times.

This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 11:42 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:29 am to
California currently doesn't recognize additional Christian holidays outside of Christmas Day which is a Federal holiday.

They also have more Californians in other religions than Muslims (Jews, etc.) that get none.

So Muslims will be the most represented in terms of protected holidays in the state.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:29 am to
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So, does that mean California government workers get the entire month of Ramadan off?


Nope. But what it does mean is the school meal program funding has been confiscated for that entire fasting period.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:29 am to
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Funny how athiest don't go hard at Muslims. All religions have some practices worth poking fun of, with Muslim's have the most ridiculous by far.



Bill Maher goes hard in the paint against Muslims, FWIW.

Posted by Hoops
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:31 am to
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While it could eventually creep into something worse, the way this is written isn’t all that bad


Except giving the goat frickers an inch is too much and we know damn well it won’t stop there
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 9:50 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:34 am to
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I remember when Buccees was closed for Diwali a few years ago when I was passing through



Dude, your trolls are as bad as ever

Buc-ee's has never closed for any holiday, much less Diwali. They are open 24/7 365
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 9:47 am
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:34 am to
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employee to elect eight hours of holiday credit of each in lieu of eight hours of personal holiday credit


So if you take those days off it’s taken off your PTO accrual.

So no change then?
Posted by TexasTiger89
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:36 am to
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Texas has been doing this and Indian ones for years


I remember when Buccees was closed for Diwali a few years ago when I was passing through


Texas has a word for your post. bullshite
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:36 am to
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Except giving the goat frickers and inch is too much and we know damn well it won’t stop there

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Now, I appreciate that there will be people who argue that any recognition of Islam, or of any religion other than Christianity, is inherently problematic.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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33485 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:38 am to
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So if you take those days off it’s taken off your PTO accrual. So no change then?

So, that’s something I was curious about as I was reading it. The issue is that I don’t know how personal vacation time works there, so I can’t quite figure out what this changes. It either gives more time (bad) or acts as an allowable use instance (fine) if justification is generally needed. But I don’t know which it is.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:38 am to
Establishment clause suit incoming...
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:46 am to
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Funny how athiest don't go hard at Muslims


Hitchens was way more aggressive towards Islam than Christianity believe it or not. Yes he spoke about Christianity more often but that’s because he debated in the USA and Britain. He was extremely critical of Muslims.

Seems like you might be experiencing a severe case of confirmation bias and not hearing them talking about religions when it doesn’t personally offend you
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