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re: MS Lt Gov threatens legal action if Bonnet Carré Spillway is opened
Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:26 am to MISSOURI WALTZ
Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:26 am to MISSOURI WALTZ
Have they asked Elon Musk for permission to do that?
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:08 pm to ragincajun03
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Instead of opening the Bonnet Carré Spillway, Hosemann and Mississippi wildlife advocates have offered the following alternatives:
Utilization of the Morganza Spillway to direct excess flow through the Atchafalaya Basin instead of into the Mississippi Sound
Emergency dredging of the Mississippi River both south of the Bonnet Carré and near the river’s mouth to increase
conveyance and avoid spillway use
Utilization of the Old River control structure for diversion of flood waters prior to reaching the Bonnet Carré Coordinated, timed reservoir releases upriver to flatten flood peaks before they reach the lower valley
Honestly, I support all of these recommendations. Above the ORCS, there is an estimated 10s of millions of cubic yards of silt that could be used annually.
Assume 50 million tons of sediment moving in that section annually (a reasonable ballpark considering modern flow rates).
Wet river silt converts at roughly 0.7 cubic yards per ton.
So:
50,000,000×0.7=35,000,000 cubic yards
Seems like this would be beneficial for coastal erosion projects along the coast.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:10 pm to ragincajun03
Good. Let it play out in court. We need more diversion options before all the water hits Louisiana (if possible).
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:40 pm to cbree88
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So Louisiana isn’t allowed to open a spillway to make sure the levees around the Mississippi River don’t get breached and flood Louisiana communities because the Mississippi commercial fishermen don’t want any freshwater in the Mississippi Sound?
Open the Morganza
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:31 pm to doublecutter
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Aren’t the parameters that determine when the Bonnet Carre is opened mandated by Federal Law (Congress)?
It falls under the CoE Mississippi Valley Division. I wouldn't think it requires any congressional authority. Apparently the commander who is a 3 star General makes the call.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:34 pm to Purplehaze
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:36 pm to The Boat
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They need to shift their focus to river management instead of using Bonnet Carre as a crutch
Isn't that the purpose of a spillway? To be used as a crutch...
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:43 pm to ragincajun03
This would be devastating for my upcoming $5,000 NO->Mobile inner harbor cruise
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:49 pm to ragincajun03
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Emergency dredging of the Mississippi River both south of the Bonnet Carré and near the river’s mouth to increase conveyance and avoid spillway use
holy shite

Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:16 pm to ragincajun03
Same shite every year. Mississippi gets chippy when the river rises.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:27 pm to ragincajun03
From a Mississippi standpoint
How many times has Moganza been opened compared to Bonnie-Carrie?
Morganza negatively affects LA, Bonnie-Carrie negatively affects MS.
Do they not both help with flooding of N.O.?
How many times has Moganza been opened compared to Bonnie-Carrie?
Morganza negatively affects LA, Bonnie-Carrie negatively affects MS.
Do they not both help with flooding of N.O.?
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:29 pm to redneck
Let's be serious. Nobody is going to the Mississippi coast for the beauty of the water. That's false.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:42 pm to BadatBourre
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Yall remember when this almost failed and the Mississippi River came damn close to rerouting? Yea, we arent using this either.
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Utilization of the Old River control structure for diversion of flood waters prior to reaching the Bonnet Carré
1973. The structure almost failed because it couldn’t handle the volume. It’s why the auxiliary structure was built.
I was on the structure in 1973. The whole massive thing was shaking. Water all around. Mr Simoneaux ( the USACE boss on the structure) would ask. “Have you ever heard of Murphy’s Law ? Fricking Murphy lives here. “
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:43 pm to MarsellusWallace
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Let's be serious. Nobody is going to the Mississippi coast for the beauty of the water. That's false.
It's not the "beauty of the water" but the beach, bay, river, etc in BSL is jam packed every weekend. The last time the spillway opened you couldn't swim south of I-10
Like I said it doesn't matter what MS threatens because they are going to open it if they want to but it's not just fisherman affected, it's all kind of small business, especially in Bay St Louis.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:59 pm to redneck
The 2019 spillway opening was more destructive to oyster beds than Katrina or the BP spill.
It killed oyster beds as far as Pascagoula.
It killed oyster beds as far as Pascagoula.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 3:04 pm to AUstar
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Preacher man says it's the end of time
And the Mississippi River is a running high.
I thought I was going crazy for a minute. Have I misheard that song my entire life?
I had to google the lyrics.

Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:11 pm to cbree88
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So Louisiana isn’t allowed to open a spillway
Louisiana doesn't operate the flood control systems on the River, the federal government does.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:23 pm to ragincajun03
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Immediate utilization of the Morganza Spillway to direct excess flow through the Atchafalaya Basin instead of into the Mississippi Sound
Nah. Mississippi isn't more important than the central Louisiana coast. If you open one you should open both.
At the end of the day, If they dont dramatically lower the river bed (it rises every year) there will be a flood that overtops the levees or breaks through the ORCS or something else catastrophic. The spillways and diversions are not enough, but this is another reason why the mid-barataria diversion would be helpful to provide an additional outlet of flow.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:34 pm to WizardSleeve
mid-barataria diversion
The Louisiana Oystermen Association have entered the chat.....
The Louisiana Oystermen Association have entered the chat.....
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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Emergency dredging of the Mississippi River both south of the Bonnet Carré and near the river’s mouth to increase conveyance and avoid spillway use
Lawyers. Always the smartest people in the room; just ask them.
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