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re: Missing 18 year old's body found on Horn Island - and ridiculous reactions.

Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12463 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:03 pm to
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Why would they need lawyers for social media harassment?
Are you really this dense?

Nolan’s family lawyered up with a prominent race baiter attorney who is implying that Nolan’s friends are responsible for his death. Why the frick wouldn’t you lawyer up in that situation?


That same lawyer was on Today show on NBC this morning saying it is a race issue because he was only black guy on the whole island.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17773 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:06 pm to
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If you ever have to talk to the police in a situation like this, or really any situation, you should have a lawyer present.

The notion that retaining legal counsel makes a person appear more guilty is retarded and makes you sound like someone who would defend police tactics to force a confession even when innocent.

ALWAYS retain counsel.


That's fair. Truth be told, I've always been of the mindset that if you have to retain counsel in a situation where you are 100% in the clear from any and everything. Then there's a good possibility you are hiding something. Ie You may not be guilty of the actual crime, but you may have known something/saw something along the way. But then again, I could very well be wrong in that assumption. I've never been in a case where I've had to talk to police, etc.

So, question: do investigators and prosecutors look at it suspiciously at all when witnesses hire an attorney before speaking with police? Or is that seen neutrally, legally speaking?
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4596 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:13 pm to
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Me rolling out of bed with no law degree and fricking these bald-headed people up in five seconds


Crump should have been disbarred with the fake witness shite he pulled during the Trayvon Martin fiasco.

There's is a lesson to be be learned in this story. Don't have black friends because their parents will play the ghetto lottery with your life should something bad happen.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57201 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:17 pm to
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But then again, I could very well be wrong in that assumption.


You are. And that's ok. Now you know. If you have to deal with LE, even if you are completely innocent of anything and everything, get a lawyer. That isn't an opinion.


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So, question: do investigators and prosecutors look at it suspiciously at all when witnesses hire an attorney before speaking with police? Or is that seen neutrally, legally speaking?


They might(probably will) try and use it against you, but they absolutely know that the intelligent thing to do is to retain counsel. Of course they won't like it, it takes power away from them, but that isn't your problem.
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 3:25 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
197670 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:21 pm to
Still think his boys did him wrong?
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1355 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:21 pm to
Yea you have the wrong mindset, but from your earlier comments you seem to have lived a somewhat sheltered life, no offense intended. Doesn't matter how it's seen, lawyer up and protect yourself.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22989 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:22 pm to
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That's fair. Truth be told, I've always been of the mindset that if you have to retain counsel in a situation where you are 100% in the clear from any and everything. Then there's a good possibility you are hiding something.

You understand that speaking to the cops under any circumstance is a horrible idea, right? You are not "hiding anything" by retaining counsel, you are protecting yourself, law enforcements ultimate goal is to build a case and when you talk to the cops this diminishes your legal leverage and what you say can be used against you.

Ask yourself this, do you think a cop or anyone working in law enforcement would speak to investigators if there name was brought up for anything, without counsel being present?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15585 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:23 pm to
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That's fair. Truth be told, I've always been of the mindset that if you have to retain counsel in a situation where you are 100% in the clear from any and everything. Then there's a good possibility you are hiding something. Ie You may not be guilty of the actual crime, but you may have known something/saw something along the way. But then again, I could very well be wrong in that assumption. I've never been in a case where I've had to talk to police, etc.

So, question: do investigators and prosecutors look at it suspiciously at all when witnesses hire an attorney before speaking with police? Or is that seen neutrally, legally speaking?


you definitely are very ignorant of real life.

Go watch the movie about that guy who the FBI thought was the Unabomber

Open your damn eyes to the real world
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
4115 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:23 pm to
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That's fair. Truth be told, I've always been of the mindset that if you have to retain counsel in a situation where you are 100% in the clear from any and everything. Then there's a good possibility you are hiding something. Ie You may not be guilty of the actual crime, but you may have known something/saw something along the way. But then again, I could very well be wrong in that assumption. I've never been in a case where I've had to talk to police, etc.


And this mindset explains why there’s probably more black people (and low income people) in prison than there needs to be.

Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
197670 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:27 pm to
Would be weird if a culture that is so distrustful of the police / system that choose to not take advantage of the rights that are given to them by our legal system

chiefly they can't not be questioned without an attorney unless you waive that right

If you think the system is out to get you stop talking to the system without your rights fully engaged
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 3:32 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23013 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Absolutely. They are being blamed as white kids killing a black kid. Lawyer up asap. In fact, I might file my own suit against those parents and grifters.
They leave no choice; you have to file immediately.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23013 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:29 pm to
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So, question: do investigators and prosecutors look at it suspiciously at all when witnesses hire an attorney before speaking with police?
Who cares, f them.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26173 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:30 pm to
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That's fair. Truth be told, I've always been of the mindset that if you have to retain counsel in a situation where you are 100% in the clear from any and everything. Then there's a good possibility you are hiding something. Ie You may not be guilty of the actual crime, but you may have known something/saw something along the way. But then again, I could very well be wrong in that assumption. I've never been in a case where I've had to talk to police, etc.


Police interrogators are not your friends, even if you did nothing wrong. Its their job to get someone to admit to something incriminating or get a confession. They aren't getting that info by being nice to you and asking softball questions. Being questioned, even if you're innocent, can still be intimidating...especially for someone who's young and/or never been in trouble before. They're not joking when they say "anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" so you should always exercise your right to an attorney.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26180 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:33 pm to
Any clues suggesting anything suspicious went on (besides skin color)? If not the main takeaway is this: don’t be friends with black people. It’ll be used against you.
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
81977 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:34 pm to
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Well, the black kid in the video didn't remotely resemble Wells


You should post that and say "but I guess they all look the same to you". Or if there's nothing in your profile indicating your race, say we instead of they.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23029 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:36 pm to
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That's fair. Truth be told, I've always been of the mindset that if you have to retain counsel in a situation where you are 100% in the clear from any and everything. Then there's a good possibility you are hiding something. Ie You may not be guilty of the actual crime, but you may have known something/saw something along the way. But then again, I could very well be wrong in that assumption. I've never been in a case where I've had to talk to police, etc.

So, question: do investigators and prosecutors look at it suspiciously at all when witnesses hire an attorney before speaking with police? Or is that seen neutrally, legally speaking?


In this situation, where the deceased's family has already hired the biggest race baiting POS attorney there is, coupled with the fact that at least one of these kids' parents is a judge, it would be very odd if they DIDN'T lawyer up.

Plus, it looks like most were drinking from the pictures. At the very least they could be facing some questions on operating the boat under the influence.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36343 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:37 pm to
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But then again I've seen some suggest that they hired lawyers immediately,


If you are able, you should always hire a lawyer when dealing with law enforcement.

It is a fool’s game to assume guilt or innocence based on the hiring of an attorney.

If those were my kids, they would’ve been lawyered up immediately.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21343 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Crump should have been disbarred with the fake witness shite he pulled during the Trayvon Martin fiasco.

There's is a lesson to be be learned in this story. Don't have black friends because their parents will play the ghetto lottery with your life should something bad happen.


Yep and yep (sadly).

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26173 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:46 pm to
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Plus, it looks like most were drinking from the pictures. At the very least they could be facing some questions on operating the boat under the influence.


Probably have to worry about civil lawsuit for wrongful death too against whoever provided the alcohol that day. Especially if the autopsy and toxicology report indicate that alcohol may have been a contributing factor in his drowning or whatever else happened.
Posted by SoggyCerealClub
Member since Apr 2026
198 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:53 pm to
I’m a bit shocked that the black community is taking on this tragedy. It’s clear the mom is not fully black and no one is as racist as black folks against mixed black folks.

Also, has it been mentioned who Nolan’s father is? He has a different last name than the rest of the family.
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