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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:21 am to
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:21 am to
Just saw on one of the videos, ole boy with a tank top and a tribal tat, holding a 24 oz beer, bend down during the shooting, then stand up and flip off the shooter when it stopped. Wtf?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:21 am to
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news also stated that the shooters family issued a statement saying he had no religious or political affiliation...tifwiw.
Yea, not buying that.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3907 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:21 am to
Video sounds like fully automatic gunfire but not as fast as a true full auto gun. I wonder if he had a bump fire setup.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:22 am to
10+ rifles with drums and drums already loaded. 1000's of rounds found in the room (or reported). Just crazy how he was able to get all of that up there.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:22 am to
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TigerFanInSouthland

Please STFU, this thread is not for you arguing your obvious superior intellect and skill in a situation like this.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:23 am to
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it very well could have just been some other crazy person in a completely unrelated situation babbling about how everyone was going to die.


Apparently that was the case. The police stated that they contacted Marilou but she was not located in the US and had nothing to do with the shooting.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:23 am to
No dude, your ‘downvoters’ are just laughing at your tough guy ‘I’d do this’ or ‘I'd do that’ bravado... you have no clue wtf you or anyone else would do in a situation like that.. then, throw in the fact that (maybe) half of the crowd is drinking, nobody has any clue how they’d react in this situation


You’re talking about this like it’s a routine deal. Like everything (even if you have training) is cut and dry and you know for sure how you’d react... you, and anyone else for that matter, have NO CLUE what you would really do in this situation
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:25 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27778 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:23 am to
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ate of fire wasnt fast enough to be a real automatic


Depends on the rifle. Not all rifles have the same cycle rate.




Not military. Never claim to be. But it sounds like every YouTube combat video I've ever seen.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:23 am to
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Edit: to my downvoters, do y'all actually think that just staying out on an OPEN STREET or a big arse OPEN CONCERT FLOOR is a good idea when there is a person shooting directly at you?

No, not at all. I think the downvotes are not directed at that, but rather at the fact that you can't fathom how untrained civilians didn't react in the proper way as MILITARY TRAINING revealed to you. Your acting like it should be a natural reaction, when admitting it's not, in that you REQUIRED TRAINING to know this. And your refusal to acknowledge those that are pointing this out to you.

If I was a betting man, I'm betting that's the source of your downvotes.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68036 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:23 am to
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Depends on the rifle. Not all rifles have the same cycle rate.


i know that, but the fire rate in the video is slow by any full auto standards

ETA: couldve been a binary trigger for all we know
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:24 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21746 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:24 am to
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Just crazy how he was able to get all of that up there.


Suit cases? He didnt need to bring it all up in one trip.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
13029 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:24 am to
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10+ rifles with drums and drums already loaded. 1000's of rounds found in the room (or reported). Just crazy how he was able to get all of that up there.



would like to see the surveillance video of him entering the complex...I'm just having a hard time thinking this guy did this with no help
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40209 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:25 am to
I just read (and this may have already been posted?) that he previously had a lawsuit against the Mandalay Bay.

Not sure how or if this should matter, but interesting that he picked a hotel to stay at where he obviously had a difference of opinion with, whether work related or not. But I suppose it was all about the location for what he wanted to accomplish.

Sick.


Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:25 am to
I have zero training and probably would have just froze or curled up like a baby.

If my kids were with me I probably would have grabbed them and ran like hell.

So fricked up these people had to deal with this.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
yeah i thought of this he prob brought it up in in seperate trips he checked into the hotel on a thursday so that gives him 3-3.5 days to get all that gear up there. not hard to believe when its put that way.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36186 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
Yeah I can easily see how he got it all in the room. That part isn’t complicated.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
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do y'all actually think that just staying out on an OPEN STREET or a big arse OPEN CONCERT FLOOR is a good idea when there is a person shooting directly at you?


The downvotes are coming because you're calmly sitting behing your computer, after the fact, with all the information available to you - and arrogantly talking about what all the victims should have done as they were drunk, in shock, and had no idea what was going on around them.

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
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Not military. Never claim to be. But it sounds like every YouTube combat video I've ever seen.


Fox news just had a new video shot from the base of the hotel, or directly under the shooter. Definitely sounded like bump fire. Shots weren't fast enough to be full auto.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122736 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
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family issued a statement saying he had no religious or political affiliation...tifwiw.


well that settles it
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
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My JROTC SpecOp Team has trained me for this.


Was Major Payne your CO?
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