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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:26 am to
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I just read (and this may have already been posted?) that he previously had a lawsuit against the Mandalay Bay.



This is interesting.

By his logic, killing a significant amount of people from their building could potentially financially harm Mandalay.

Did he lose that lawsuit?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36186 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:27 am to
I’m pretty sure the suit was against another hotel not MB.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:27 am to
quote:

I just read (and this may have already been posted?) that he previously had a lawsuit against the Mandalay Bay.
It is important to keep in mind that the vast majority of early info is false.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:28 am to
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The first names posted in here were correct.


And the FB pages that were linked here and elsewhere weren't.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:28 am to
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My JROTC SpecOp Team has trained me for this.


Is JROTC SpecOp team training mandatory for country concerts or do you think there's a chance some of the people there had never trained for this?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:28 am to
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TigerFanInSouthland

Admins, please get rid of this guy. There is no need for his BS in a thread like this.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:28 am to
quote:

I'm just having a hard time thinking this guy did this with no help


Not hard to pack a bunch of suitcases and have a porter put it on a luggage cart. That's probably all the "help" he needed.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:29 am to
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would like to see the surveillance video of him entering the complex...I'm just having a hard time thinking this guy did this with no help


It’s a convention hotel. Roll up to valet, say I need all this brought up to room 32xxx. Belhops deal with this (people with a lot of items) there almost daily.
Posted by Lord_Ford
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
4240 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:30 am to
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I have zero training and probably would have just froze or curled up like a baby.


Not to mention you probably have little to no clue which way to run. I probably would have covered up the wife and shite my pants.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:30 am to
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I have zero training and probably would have just froze or curled up like a baby.


What he is also not sharing is that in most circumstances, you are taught to drop when you hear gunfire, because it's usually assumed shooting is taking place at ground level, and you greatly reduce yourself as a target when you get down. Of course, you then assess the situation, and immediately move to cover when you can.

I doubt very seriously anyone could have instantly determined the shooting was coming from 32 floors up and realized they were making themselves bigger targets. They simply dropped out of natural instinct, and what they've been taught, and it took them a while to even assess what was going on around them. And then when they realized what was going on, they were torn between staying there, or moving, and drawing more attention to themselves.

Those poor people. To think they were idiots for dropping down is mind boggling.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:30 am to
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And the FB pages that were linked here and elsewhere weren't.


The first response to the Marylou name got me to her page. But I didn’t stay up much past that.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22530 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:31 am to
So how did this dude shoot out in the open? Balcony in the hotel room or what?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:31 am to
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My JROTC SpecOp Team has trained me for this.


That's awesome. Would you like a cookie? If only you had been there. Entire thing could have been prevented. GTFO with your BS.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I have zero training and probably would have just froze or curled up like a baby.


95% of the people in this thread, including me, would have probably done the same thing.

Most of us just don't have the experience to be able to process this kind of event.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12077 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:32 am to
quote:

I just read (and this may have already been posted?) that he previously had a lawsuit against the Mandalay Bay.


Several years ago there was a guy that had won free buffets for a year at the M hotel but he was kicked out and barred for harassing staff. He sued, then went back and blew his brains out in the buffet. This could be something similar on a much larger scale.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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ETA: couldve been a binary trigger for all we know


Sounded like bump fire to me.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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So how did this dude shoot out in the open? Balcony in the hotel room or what?


Straight through the window.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27778 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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Fox news just had a new video shot from the base of the hotel, or directly under the shooter. Definitely sounded like bump fire. Shots weren't fast enough to be full auto.





To prove I am not military, wtf is "bump fire"? What makes it easier to get than a full auto? What's it's advantage to an evil assholes? Is it legal? Is it a modification?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:32 am to
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There's far more egregious shite spewed on here daily than what I have said in here.

I dunno man, you're blaming victims of a gruesome, ambush mass shooting for not have sweet tacticool skills like you. It's pretty fricking bad
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:33 am to
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Not to mention you probably have little to no clue which way to run. I probably would have covered up the wife and shite my pants.


Yep. No one had a clue until the third or fourth round of bursts.

Hell, the police were confused for a bit.

I'm so sad for these people and their families.
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