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re: Map showing % of children enrolled in Private Schools 1-12
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:07 am to TDcline
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:07 am to TDcline
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We have too many private schools in this state and it's taking good students out of the public schools system.
We have the highest percentage of private schools anywhere in the country in relation to our population. It's ridiculous. So many private schools detract from the public system and leave the public schools with kids/parents who either don't give a shite or don't have the financial means to pay for private school, and it's one of the many reasons our education system ranks dead last in the nation.
Lmao. Now it’s private schools’ fault that the public school system blows.
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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that would be illegal
In Louisiana I presume
Louisiana could be as well off as Texas is right now, but continues to do everything opposite of what Texas does.
The lunacy continues, and Louisiana constituents who see the light move. The ones that don't, either can't or try to overlook it due to pride.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:09 am to TDcline
I think it's worth pointing out that without private schools, education in public schools would be even worse.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:11 am to 50_Tiger
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In Louisiana I presume
bro the East Baton Rouge Parish deseg scheme was literally to randomly bus kids all over the parish
you think they'd allow ISDs in EBR that would certainly display racial population discrepancies?
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:13 am to TeddyPadillac
Louisiana District Scores 2017
If you're really interested, you can research the criteria. The point is that there are lots of good public schools in Louisiana. It's all about demographics, which has been pointed out many times. Also, many are overestimating the lack of good teachers factor in public schools. There are more good teachers in public schools because they can make much more money there, period. A poor teacher with poor classroom management skills simply can't last (survive) in many of the public schools that you're calling bad. It's all about the students and their parents.
If you're really interested, you can research the criteria. The point is that there are lots of good public schools in Louisiana. It's all about demographics, which has been pointed out many times. Also, many are overestimating the lack of good teachers factor in public schools. There are more good teachers in public schools because they can make much more money there, period. A poor teacher with poor classroom management skills simply can't last (survive) in many of the public schools that you're calling bad. It's all about the students and their parents.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:17 am to cwill
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That’s actually how it works. I’ve seen parents in neighborhoods here in Houston get involved and turn underperforming elementary publics into top schools....that being said I don’t think it will work for high schools - districts are too big.
I think the problem with EBR (and other under-performing districts) is we don't have a school board that is more willing to allow discipline to be enforced in the classroom/schools than they are willing to not rock the boat (or be called... *gasp!* "racist").
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
You do realize in Texas the bad ISD’s get reallocated money from the state right?
It’s purely demographic.
It’s purely demographic.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:05 pm to doubleb
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I believe the discipline issues, and the poor teacher issues can be addressed somewhat; however, the poor students who are not there to learn and all they do is disrupt classes have to be removed from the classroom and put in some kind of reform school. That isn't about to happen so concerned parents of every race are removing their kids from these poor students as best they can.
Then the reform school (the property) will be taken over by the state and turned into a RSD. At that point they have selective enrollment. They will not except those bad kids so they will go back into the public school and the cycle will repeat. How long can a school system keep losing its property? Again like I have said multiple times in this thread if people actually looked at the laws governing our education system they would understand how it’s sooo screwed up.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:14 pm to TDcline
As someone who sent my kids to private school, I'll tell you this. Unless you're at one of the very pricey schools in a decent sized city, expect subpar teachers. The small private schools can't afford top quality teachers unless they grab a retiree here and there. You'll mostly get teachers right out of college that only teach there until the public system has a spot open.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:18 pm to bayourougebengal
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As someone who sent my kids to private school, I'll tell you this. Unless you're at one of the very pricey schools in a decent sized city, expect subpar teachers.
In general the quality of teacher has little influence on student quality
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:22 pm to notiger1997
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What's the average ACT score for that parish?
I bet it's 20 or below.
And the MSA academy is above 25.
Give and take.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In general the quality of teacher has little influence on student quality
I agree, good students will thrive anywhere to an extent. We were lucky there, but some kids need a quality teacher to help them reach their potential. Public schools have more of those teachers.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 2:18 pm to upgrayedd
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It's a simple risk assessment. You can either have your kid get a shitty education because the bulk of the classroom time is used to deal with the trouble makers or you can send your kid elsewhere so they don't have to deal with it. Let's face it, a certain demographic gives zero fricks about their child's education except when they're causing inconvenience for the parents.
this.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 3:35 pm to TheXman
quote:Huh?
I think it's worth pointing out that without private schools, education in public schools would be even worse.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 4:38 pm to TDcline
quote:No, it's not the system.
I'll be the first to admit that Louisiana's public school system is absolutely terrible.
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So many private schools detract from the public system and leave the public schools with kids/parents who either don't give a shite or don't have the financial means to pay for private school, and it's one of the many reasons our education system ranks dead last in the nation.
There you have it. La. doesn't have a school problem, it has a raw materials problem.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:48 pm to dixiechick
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EDIT: NM... you answered my question in the last paragraph of your post. Because you can’t afford private everyone else should suffer. I would argue that this is the end game of government... to see to it that the masses can’t afford “private” anything.
It's not an affordability issue. Many of the mom and pop Catholic schools in this state barely stay open because their tuition is just low enough for the 35k white families to price out the 25k black ones. Take your shitty alter and GTFO
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:15 pm to TDcline
I find it odd the number of people that gave up teaching or moved after working in the public schools here.
The kids and lack of parenting must be that freaking bad.
The kids and lack of parenting must be that freaking bad.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:34 pm to X123F45
The problem with using ACT scores in state rankings is that every student in Louisiana is required to take it. Regardless of whether the kid is severely mentally handicapped, welder trainee bound, or the valedictorian, every kids score counts as part of the average. It's totally unfair but that's what you get when you have a supt of education who doesn't qualify to be an asset principal and a BESE board bought and paid for by a charter school proponent.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:51 am to TDcline
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Doesn't take a genius to figure out that the private schools are 95% white and the Public schools are 70% black. It's an under-the-table form of segregation.
Hahahaha
Posted on 4/3/18 at 6:59 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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You have to be connected or have an exceptionally smart kid (or both) to get kids into a good public school in Louisiana
No you just have to live in places other than NOLA, St. John Parish, Jeff Parish, and BR.
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