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Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:08 am to boosiebadazz
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After the procedure, Shaknovsky told Beverly Bryan that the “spleen” was so diseased that it was four times bigger than usual and had “migrated” to the other side of Mr. Bryan’s body.
I know this is coming from the wife’s lawyer, but this is crazy. With the pre-op checks and determining issue to have incorrectly pushed surgery there instead of going home due to spleen possibly rupturing I would think multiple people including the doctor put hands on right side and/or had imaging of some sort beforehand.
This was also hand assist, so it’s not just misreading cameras and/or getting turned around having to look at images on screens. The surgeon has non-dominant hand inside the patient to help with the surgery on the spleen.
After all of this if doctor really labeled liver as spleen and made these comments to patient’s wife he had to have been high during surgery or is just retarded.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:09 am to LSUFootballLover
I work in the OR daily and it’s crazy to think something like this can even happen. With anesthesia at the head and roughly 1-2 people assisting at the bedside, it’s hard to believe that one of the 3 wouldn’t even question what he was doing. For those who have worked in surgery, the liver and the spleen are noticeably different organs in size and location. Albeit, they are somewhat close together and look similar, a non surgeon, trained in some other medical field would know the difference.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:16 am to tiger91
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I’m not sure what the difference in the four year training prior to residency is but it can’t be easy!
My understanding of the difference is DO students study and learn alternative methods of treatment vs traditional medicine of treating everything with a pill.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:18 am to Asleepinthecove
quote:right. Which I don’t see how that makes any difference for surgeons
My understanding of the difference is DO students study and learn alternative methods of treatment vs traditional medicine of treating everything with a pill.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:20 am to RoyalWe
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Is there an award we can give?
The PPA is given for Perfect Posts.
I hereby nominate this for a Droppie
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:35 am to LSUBFA83
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this was not the first time Dr. Shaknovsky had mistakenly operated on the wrong part of a person’s body
Someone needs a human anatomy refresher...
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:40 am to East Coast Band
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This thread de-livers.
Well done!

Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:47 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Hey Lonnie, I hope you never have the wrong organ removed. Only a motherfricking, inconsiderate, insecure a-hole would downvote a post asking for prayers and spend all day on an internet forum just waiting to downvote posts from one particular poster just b/c "reasons". That is some insecure shite.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:49 am to Lee B
“After practicing general surgery for four years”
Probably needs some more years of practice.
Probably needs some more years of practice.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:50 am to LSUFootballLover
Was this the surgeon?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:51 am to ghost2most
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O-T Lounge
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Read four pages hoping there would be some kind of explanation
You new to these parts?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:02 am to Asleepinthecove
I’m in the OR a lot too and I’m wondering if the patient could have had some type of weird anatomical abnormalities? Have seen some weird shite before, I guess it’s possible.
But still. Spleen and liver look very, very different.
Spleen
Liver
But still. Spleen and liver look very, very different.

Spleen

Liver
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:04 am to LSUFootballLover
Was the guy drunk and/or high? I may not know much about surgery. But I do know there should be no reason for a doctor to fricking remove the wrong fricking body part.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:21 am to tiger91
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My daughter has 1 friend in med school and 2 in DO school. They're all working their asses off.
My husbands gp died … guy who took over his practice is a DO. We’ve been happy so far.
I’m not sure what the difference in the four year training prior to residency is but it can’t be easy!
MD and DO school are 4 years of memorizing the skeletal and vital systems of the human body and basic interface to prepare the student to comprehend what is learned in the residency that follows.
Where a physician completed medical school is less important than how he/she performed on the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE). But this is not a statistic that is accessible to Joe Blow.
What really matters is the Residency program.
The better DO schools typically rank in the lower 25 percentile of MD schools.
The average person does not possess the capacity to evaluate a physician, save for one's bedside manner and access to timely appointments.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:23 am to BottomlandBrew
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—— was there not someone else there who could have spoken up when they started cutting on the wrong side of the body?——
That’s what I was wondering! Even if it was a "I’M THE SURGEON HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME" type,, if I was a nurse, anaesthesiologist , or anyone in the room, I would have had to pipe up with an "are you sure?", Even risking their ire. If there was anyone there who internally questioned it, but didn’t speak up, they’ve got a load of guilt to carry
—— was there not someone else there who could have spoken up when they started cutting on the wrong side of the body?——
That’s what I was wondering! Even if it was a "I’M THE SURGEON HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME" type,, if I was a nurse, anaesthesiologist , or anyone in the room, I would have had to pipe up with an "are you sure?", Even risking their ire. If there was anyone there who internally questioned it, but didn’t speak up, they’ve got a load of guilt to carry
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:25 am to VolunGator
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The average person does not possess the capacity to evaluate a physician, save for one's bedside manner and access to timely appointments.

Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:29 am to Asleepinthecove
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My understanding of the difference is DO students study and learn alternative methods of treatment vs traditional medicine of treating everything with a pill.
Well I think a pill would’ve been way better than what this jabroni of a DO did.
Osteopathic schools are way more lax on admissions, that can lead to a doctor removing a liver thinking it’s a spleen.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:48 am to AlextheBodacious
quote:Do you think he skipped the 3 years of general surgery residency?
Osteopathic schools are way more lax on admissions, that can lead to a doctor removing a liver thinking it’s a spleen.

The residency program is who should be under a spotlight right now, not the med school or DO school
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 10:49 am
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