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re: Major wildfire in Los Angeles (and Pasadena)

Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16183 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Wait so now we're blaming climate change and a once in a lifetime historic fire? Damn, guess Karen Bass and Newsome are off the hook


Let's just humor them and say it IS a result of "climate change" (it isn't, it's shitty people being arsonists and careless most likely)

Wouldn't there be no other place on the planet more prepared for the results of this "climate change" than Los Angeles, California? They probably have more citizens and government figures that have fully embraced the climate change mantra per-capita than anywhere else in the country.

Trying to use "oh it's just climate change and nothing could be done!' as an excuse, when you're the population that's been screaming about climate change the most for decades now just doesn't hold up. It's hypocrisy.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33490 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:02 pm to
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more prepared
The following is according to Grok
quote:

The Santa Ynez Reservoir has undergone significant repairs in the last 5 years, primarily focused on its cover:

2022-2025: The reservoir has been under repair for its cover since September 2022, with the work expected to be completed by late 2025. This repair was for a tear in the cover that impacted water quality. The Santa Ynez Reservoir Floating Cover Project was being constructed to comply with United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) water quality regulations, specifically the Stage 2 Disinfectants and Disinfection By-Products Rule (S2DBPR) and the Long Term 2 Enhanced Surface Water Treatment Rule (LT2ESWTR).


Historical Context: Before this period, there was another major project from 2009 to 2011 where the reservoir was drained for the installation of a floating cover, which also aimed to meet EPA regulations. This indicates a pattern of addressing the cover to comply with water quality standards.


These repairs have left the reservoir empty for substantial periods, impacting its availability during emergencies like wildfires.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41075 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:03 pm to
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So…. Someone please explain to me why anyone would “choose” to do maintenance on the reservoir during peak fire season???


It's not fire season, let alone peak fire season
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10598 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:09 pm to
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The damn graphic tells you at the very top in bold letters what it is. This is a you problem.


That it’s labeled at the top YTD Jan 11, 2025 and not just thru Jan 11 and then bars are labeled by years 2025 and 2024 are what leads to needing clarification especially when viewed out of context to the surrounding info Cal Fire may have included around it. It can seen as a comparison to all of Jan for 2024 and the 5 year average of Januaries which I have seen charts do to show how far something has been passed up with over half the month remaining or even compared to an entire year to show the same extreme increase over prior year(s).

If it had just said YTD thru Jan 11th and left out the 2025 saving it for the bar graphic it would have been clearer.

It’s not misleading. Just a little ambiguous on what’s being compared without some context.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:11 pm to
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It’s not misleading. Just a little ambiguous on what’s being compared with some context.

I can agree with that. I pulled it from a CalFire post on Xwitter. The post had more context, I just didn't want to go back and find it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:24 pm to
This is referring to the Eaton Fire in/near Pasadena.
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Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:36 pm to
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Many people ask, why is the Palisades Fire only 11% contained? This is the current view of the Palisades Fire from Topanga Peak looking toward Brentwood, the area that was most active over the last 24 hours.

The reason a fire like this is only 11% contained is because firefighters have to cover every inch of perimeter before they can call it contained. This process is accomplished through old fashioned labor.

Chainsaws have to cut open all the brush so firefighters can literally put their bare hands in the ash on the edge to ensure it’s cold. If it’s not, they have to work to extinguish all the hotspots. If you can’t call the section of your Division cold and dead out, Fire managers cannot put a black line on the map to call it contained.

Many times, firefighters on the line would consider a fire 80% contained when it’s reported to be 25% contained. Fire managers are careful not to quickly add containment if a lot of work is yet to be accomplished. Also, people looking up at the mountain who don’t see any smoke wonder why containment isn’t higher.

It takes time to physically run your hands across every inch of the MILES of perimeter to ensure you can call your division good. And it’s very important to remember that critical Fire weather is predicted through Wednesday. All control lines will be tested by the winds over the next couple days. If they hold, containment will likely start to increase quickly next week.

It takes time, and a ton of physical labor by crews with 60lbs on their backs to ground truth every inch of fireline. Even if there are 100 miles of it…
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:43 pm to
Look at it blow. Every one of those embers is an opportunity to spread fire.

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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 3:46 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39613 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:46 pm to
Nah, I get it.

Looters are just complete scum
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15297 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:47 pm to
That some winds right there.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:48 pm to
Screw arresting them. They obviously care little about life and have zero care about anything so they should be shot on sight.
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
Key Biscayne, FL
Member since Sep 2003
3904 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:11 pm to
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BREAKING: Wildfire in the Los Angeles area has spread to California’s Brentwood neighborhood, now threatening the homes owned by LeBron James, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Kamala Harris.

Poor old Kamala ...

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Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18850 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:27 pm to
honestly that read like Oregon sent the not so great equipment, and CA had to repair it before they sent to the front line and had them potentially break down.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:40 pm to
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honestly that read like Oregon sent the not so great equipment, and CA had to repair it


I didn’t get that out of reading the post.

Either way it’s so fricking exhausting reading through all the bullshite lies and political posturing of every major event in this country. It comes from both sides and every angle non stop. The liberals are way more full of shite though.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18850 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:47 pm to
I mean - I could be mistaken and read it in a way that was not intended. I read another briefing from Oregon, where they mentioned repairs having to be made to the equipment, and some could not be completed on a few due to parts not being available, but once the ones were repaired, they were sent on.

it is hard to say what is right - I just saw what I had read last night and then that seem pretty close to each other - but again, I have no idea what is what.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4523 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:47 pm to
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The leaders are probably power line start, intentional arson, dumb people/kids.


There’s a reason the Pacific Palisades fire and its origin is now in federal jurisdiction.

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the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) (.gov) is the only U.S. government agency with arson investigation as a core mission:

ATF Certified Fire Investigators (CFIs)
Special agents with specialized training in arson and fire investigation.
Conduct scene examinations at fire scenes
Identify, collect, and analyze arson-related evidence
Act as lead criminal investigators
Conduct research to identify trends in arson
Use scientific and engineering technology to analyze fires
ATF's arson and explosives training programs
Include:
National Response Teams
International Response Teams
Special Response Teams

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:49 pm to
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There’s a reason the Pacific Palisades fire and its origin is now in federal jurisdiction.

Yes.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10598 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:53 pm to
Now we know the cause and what to fix. It is the rich not paying taxes…
Maxine has to be the dumbest person in Washington DC, and that city offers her a lot of competition to be at the bottom.
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