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re: Major wildfire in Los Angeles (and Pasadena)
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:30 am to TheOcean
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:30 am to TheOcean
Whats funny about Newsome suspending the building regulations for the rich and wealthy is that those are the same building regulations the wealthy used to prevent other people from building what they didnt want near them 
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:32 am to baldona
I am not disputing what you are saying by any stretch - but if they sent trucks that needed repairs, then the last thing they needed was to deploy a truck to the lines and have it break down preventing it's full use, or no use at all - or it breaks down and they can't evac the firefighters du to the flames advance.
Optics in this are absolutely critical - but it wasn't some stupid "emissions check" crap being tossed around either.
Optics in this are absolutely critical - but it wasn't some stupid "emissions check" crap being tossed around either.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:33 am to baldona
to look at this situation, i think any rational poster can agree - this is the one time, you can paint the blame game with a very wide brush. there is plenty of blame to go round.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:37 am to Thracken13
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to look at this situation, i think any rational poster can agree - this is the one time, you can paint the blame game with a very wide brush. there is plenty of blame to go round.
I just want every American and especially every American leader to be treated the same. Certain ethnic groups get a pass and it’s killing people now. We have to stop it.
Until that happens good luck.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:08 am to baldona
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You are right, to a small degree nothing could have been done to make this a nothin burger.
To a small degree? Did you watch the clip posted a few pages back? how would you propose controlled burns take place in residential neighborhoods such as that? They couldn't get the aerial firefighters up until the winds subsided. LA didn't run out of water, the fires taxed the system and they had trouble with pressure because the power that supplies the pumps to get water in the hillside areas was off.
I voted for Trump, I voted for Caruso. I hate the Dems and all their woke bullshite. Progressives have ravaged this city with their criminal and homeless friendly policies.
Is it a bad look that bass was in Ghana, sure. Is it a bad look one of our numerous reservoirs was out of use, sure. DEI is stupid, but having a straight white male as fire chief wouldn't change the conditions. We had cat 2 hurricane winds in a suburban area that hasn't seen rain in almost a year. This transcends politics.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:23 am to 632627
Bumps
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 2:25 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:29 am to 632627
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but having a straight white male as fire chief wouldn't change the conditions
I'm not sure how you make this argument. You don't think a fire chief actually concerned with his job doesn't push for better use of funds, push for better policies to prevent stuff like this from happening, etc? Especially when compared to the morons that are currently in charge. You really think there's no change in anything with competent people in charge?
I don't think there's no fire with that change, but to say nothing could have changed that led to this being as bad as it is, I just can't agree.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:34 am to Woolfpack
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We will never know if this fire could have been stopped or even prevented
Nothing could have prevented the spark that started the fires. Nothing could stop the wind that rapidly spread the fires and delayed the deployment of aerial firefighting.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:37 am to 632627
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Nothing could have prevented the spark that started the fires.
How can you say something like this with such certainty?
Can you tell me what the initial spark was that started this fire? A quick Google search is giving conflicting info.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:50 am to LNCHBOX
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How can you say something like this with such certainty?
Because the spark that ignited the fires has nothing to do with politics or governance (just like it has nothing to do with climate change). We had numerous fires throughout LA. If not arson, wildfires are usually triggered by a downed power line or inadvertent man-made spark.
The political criticism is levied against the response to and subsequent spread of the fires.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to 632627
So if some fires were started by arsons who illegally entered the US, it's no way political?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to 632627
Eaton Fire got within one block of my gransparents' old house where they lived for 30+ years. Amazingly it looks like its going to survive for now as the evac order has been dropped for that area. My guess is the firefighters had a fire line set up just above them.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:56 am to 632627
Former LAFD Chief said this could have been contained like it was in 2018 where it was limited to only 900 acres. He said it could have been even more limited if the Government )”(both local and state) had done even a modicum of prevention.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:56 am to 632627
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Because the spark that ignited the fires has nothing to do with politics or governance
You keep using the word "nothing" and I don't think you understand what it means in the context of the discussion we're having.
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The political criticism is levied against the response to and subsequent spread of the fires.
Why is prevention not a valid criticism?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:07 am to LNCHBOX
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You keep using the word "nothing" and I don't think you understand what it means in the context of the discussion we're having.
You're telling me a fire has never started in a conservative area? Idaho doesn't get wildfires?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:09 am to OMLandshark
She looks like a black joker (Jack Nicholson version). Im serious. That perma smirk is planter on her face from her lifts and botox, ps. So, where Joker had the misfortune of falling into a vat of chemicals, this idiot purposefully injects them into her face so she can look like that, on purpose.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:09 am to 632627
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You're telling me a fire has never started in a conservative area? Idaho doesn't get wildfires?
I'm trying to be nice, but this level of stupidity annoys me. No, I'm not saying that at all.
But for you to sit here and say there is literally nothing that could have prevented this fire starting or being anywhere near as devastating is just dumb.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:12 am to 632627
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:13 am to 632627
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Did you watch the clip posted a few pages back? how would you propose controlled burns take place in residential neighborhoods such as that? They couldn't get the aerial firefighters up until the winds subsided. LA didn't run out of water, the fires taxed the system and they had trouble with pressure because the power that supplies the pumps to get water in the hillside areas was off.
Lol. I'm not going to say I'm an expert on control burns, but I've done them on my family's farm and I've been around them many many times on the land around my house. The government does them all the time in similar situations. They burn on one side of the dirt road while the other side stays untouched.
You burn when conditions are ideal. You burn when the wind is right, the ground is not overly dry, and you prepare for it.
This may shock you, but if houses are to the south you burn when the wind is out of the south pushing to the north.
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