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re: Major wildfire in Los Angeles (and Pasadena)
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:35 pm to Boomdaddy65201
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:35 pm to Boomdaddy65201
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:35 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Environmentalists won't allow burning on that level, nor will they allow the water infrastructure to be built to manage any fire outbreaks.
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:40 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:46 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
There's been a couple guys here screaming CA does preventative burns all the time. lolzzzz
Hint-Just because they do a few small burns here and there does not mean they are doing anywhere near enough to mitigate the problem.
Hint-Just because they do a few small burns here and there does not mean they are doing anywhere near enough to mitigate the problem.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:47 pm to OMLandshark
If my house is on fire it is very important to me the firefighters are biracial transgender nonbinary indigenous people of color.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:51 pm to BuckyCheese
I know.....
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:51 pm to OMLandshark
One DEI hire throwing another DEI hire under the bus 
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:53 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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I know.....
I was simply adding to your comment. Certainly not disputing or correcting anything you posted in the one I replied to.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:00 pm to BuckyCheese
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I was simply adding to your comment. Certainly not disputing or correcting anything you posted in the one I replied to.
Meant nothing towards you Buck with my short response
Just simply that I saw those making those claims
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Environmentalists won't allow burning on that level, nor will they allow the water infrastructure to be built to manage any fire outbreaks.
Saying what needs to be done is different than actually being able to do it. California, the large majority of the state, is coming out of major multi-year drought. The problem with comparing it to Florida (or any state with more temperate forests) is that the number of viable days for burning doesn't compare. You could burn damn near year round in most states (Texas excluded) east of the Rockies as long as there isn't a drought. You can't do that in California.
Let's talk about the manpower needed to burn at the levels some of these people are suggesting. The forestry service and other Federal firefighting organizations are hemorrhaging good, qualified firefighters. That is for various reasons, the most impactful being a continued battle to get any kind of raise or even keep the pay they currently have. That issue has been kicked down the road by Congress for years now, and there is still no resolution. Meanwhile, people keep leaving and slots keep going unfilled.
So, you want to burn four million acres a year in California? Good luck, because people will bitch greatly, and the first time a burn goes sideways (and they do occasionally) the lawsuits will fly. You can say, "They need to burn four million acres a year" all you want, but when managing a fire season that is damn near year-round at this point along with increased controlled burns it ain't happening with the force they currently have.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:15 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Saying what needs to be done is different than actually being able to do it. California, the large majority of the state, is coming out of major multi-year drought. The problem with comparing it to Florida (or any state with more temperate forests) is that the number of viable days for burning doesn't compare. You could burn damn near year round in most states (Texas excluded) east of the Rockies as long as there isn't a drought. You can't do that in California.
Let's talk about the manpower needed to burn at the levels some of these people are suggesting. The forestry service and other Federal firefighting organizations are hemorrhaging good, qualified firefighters. That is for various reasons, the most impactful being a continued battle to get any kind of raise or even keep the pay they currently have. That issue has been kicked down the road by Congress for years now, and there is still no resolution. Meanwhile, people keep leaving and slots keep going unfilled.
So, you want to burn four million acres a year in California? Good luck, because people will bitch greatly, and the first time a burn goes sideways (and they do occasionally) the lawsuits will fly. You can say, "They need to burn four million acres a year" all you want, but when managing a fire season that is damn near year-round at this point along with increased controlled burns it ain't happening with the force they currently have.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:17 pm to LegendInMyMind
Yeah let's keep doing the same thing over and over again until people are dead or lose everything they own
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Let's talk about the manpower
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:20 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Yeah let's keep doing the same thing over and over again until people are dead or lose everything they own
Where did I say that, Bobby?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:21 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
So the film is suggesting that CA should prescribe burn 4 million acres per year to help reduce their annual wildfire burn which is less than a million? Last year it was only around 325,000 acres.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:22 pm to dukke v
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Well they could not fly planes because of the wind… liberal or not you can’t blame anyone for that. Nice try.
Is this due to the low altitude they fly? Hurricane planes fly through hurricanes. I’m just curious why they couldn’t be used at all? I can see not picking up water off a body of water maybe also. But why is flying through 50-100 mph winds that bad for them?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:22 pm to OMLandshark
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The Los Angeles Fire Department publicly declares that white firefighters are "the problem."
The clip says the employers don't represent the racial make up of the city. Well, the Lakers, Clippers, Chargers and Rams don't represent the racial make up either. Now let's do the gender, do the Dodgers and Angels represent the lesbian and trans crowd ? Every job is not about racial make up, but rather the ability to be the best at the job. Stupid progressive whites leading the charge on the insanity. They asked for it and they got it.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:26 pm to BuckyCheese
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There's been a couple guys here screaming CA does preventative burns all the time. lolzzzz
Hint-Just because they do a few small burns here and there does not mean they are doing anywhere near enough to mitigate the problem.
I have quite a few questions about the claim that CA needs to control-burn at least 4,000,000 acres on an annual basis to maintain a healthy forest ecosystem. Not to mention that Florida isn't classified as hot arid or hot-semi-arid and rarely receives dry hurricane-force winds outside of a hurricane.
The problem is less about controlled burns and more about unsustainable human expansion into burn-prone areas and the effect it has on the ecosystem. Fires like this will keep happening as long as the Santa Ana Winds are a thing, the area remains a hot-semi-arid climate and I suspect we can't change the weather enough to halt them altogether.
Just for reference, that 4M area would cover from the southern border with Mexico out east to the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park upto past San Bernardino and West to Thousand Oaks and then all the way down the coast.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:31 pm to McVick
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:32 pm to McVick
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The problem is less about controlled burns and more about unsustainable human expansion into burn-prone areas and the effect it has on the ecosystem. Fires like this will keep happening as long as the Santa Ana Winds are a thing, the area remains a hot-semi-arid climate and I suspect we can't change the weather enough to halt them altogether.
They've been happening long before the white man showed up in SoCal and it's going to keep happening long after we are gone. (Short of burning it off every couple years)
Build in a tinderbox, expect your house to burn down at some point.
And don't expect to get insurance at a reasonable price.
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