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re: Louisiana to consider mandatory summer school

Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:56 am to
Absolutely! But as a parent - You work hard and deserve that

Others, collect 1st of the month welfare checks and take advantage
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1701 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:07 pm to
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At some point the education system needs to admit that we just have a lot of stupid people in Louisiana.


Taking into account all the other shite the dumb asses in this state do regularly, this is the only correct answer. There IS no solution, the dumb ones can’t be educated.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:16 pm to
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At some point the education system needs to admit that we just have a lot of stupid people in Louisiana.


Stupid, irresponsible parents. When five year olds show up to kindergarten still shitting their pants with no concept of what a number, letter, or even a color is, it’s tough. Once again, no parental accountability, just blame it all on the public school system.

To the point, our school had open house earlier this week. With the exception of one (in an entire grade level) the only parents who showed up were the parents of the “A” students. Possible correlation? I think so.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1705 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:22 pm to
I hate to say this, but by 4th grade it's almost a lost cause. Language is acquired at a very early age - some say in the womb - and the first few years of life are critical. Reading to children and allowing them to hear as many words as possible is crucial to future literacy.

The state would do better to create two kindergarten pathways that eventually converge. When they are screened for K entry, the children who are not ready could go through an intensive, small-group literacy program that meets them where they are and moves them up.

Reading and language comprehension is the single most important thing we can teach our kids, and it's the base for everything else.

And as far as public schools? They will be stagnant until discipline is addressed. Slap on the wrist, go back to class, rinse, repeat.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58465 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:28 pm to
It’s so sad how jbe is breaking up families. He’s worse than trump


Just send these kids that can’t read to Angola with the rest of their family
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15249 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:31 pm to
home life translates to educational and work life

if the parents don't give a frick, so will the kids

judging by the crisis of irresponsible fathers that abandon children with the mother, you can see where the root cause is
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5063 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Summer schools for a 5 or 6 year old is ridiculous.


Mandatory school at all is ridiculous.

People claim to be in support of it because education is so important, but lots of things are important, and we don’t make them compulsory.

It’s done to kids because they can’t do anything to stop it, and the general setup of school, activities, etc (and some just like the free babysitting aspect of it) during the time when children can’t take care of themselves is beneficial to adults.

And now of course the public school system has become a hungry beast of a bureaucracy that will never be satisfied.

School choice should include not having to go at all.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21431 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:45 pm to
This fricking state.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70953 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:48 pm to
Oh yea, this'll fix it right up. I'm sure capitL high school will be a top 10 public school by '24.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Sometimes it’s the teacher’s fault and sometimes it’s because the kid is a crack baby. So 
About 90% of the time, it's because their parents are too lazy to sit down with them for 20 minutes a day. There's bad teachers, sure, but it's kind of overblown by most of the posters on here. Most teachers aren't like those SJW types you saw on an episode of Tucker or some Turning Points USA video you saw.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5063 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:56 pm to
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About 90% of the time, it's because their parents are too lazy to sit down with them for 20 minutes a day.


The parents might not know how to read very well either. It’s a cycle. Not sure how so many people feel such sympathy for the children for not being raised correctly but then no sympathy for when the child grows up.
Posted by TigerLord2020
Member since May 2020
944 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:07 pm to
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Is it free child care disguised as summer school?


Oh it’s not free….
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8686 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Why aren't we doing this during the school year?


They are. Most, if not all, of these kids have an Individualized Educational Plan (IEP) and have some form of learning disability though. From my wife's experience as a SPED teacher and intervention coordinator in NOLA East, 1/2 the time you are correcting behavior instead of actually teaching during the interventions.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 2:20 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11765 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:20 pm to
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I hate to say this, but by 4th grade it's almost a lost cause. Language is acquired at a very early age - some say in the womb - and the first few years of life are critical. Reading to children and allowing them to hear as many words as possible is crucial to future literacy.

The state would do better to create two kindergarten pathways that eventually converge. When they are screened for K entry, the children who are not ready could go through an intensive, small-group literacy program that meets them where they are and moves them up.


This is correct. If anything mandatory Pre-K 4 and Pre-K 3, should be on the table for the lower income demographic of LA.

And when people say why should we pay for this. We already are via prisons and unbroken welfare cycles.
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5190 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:22 pm to
I am sure it’s been said but can’t we just lower the standards so we don’t leave any children behind???
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5788 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:27 pm to
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If anything mandatory Pre-K 4 and Pre-K 3, should be on the table for the lower income demographic of LA.

There's been a push in recent years for this. Last session they made Kindergarten mandatory.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48110 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:31 pm to
Sooo, year long day care for the masses of children whose parents really don't give a shite about their academic results?
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:34 pm to
How hard is it to teach reading at home?

That is the simplest thing a parent can do to invest in the future of their child's education.

And what the frick are the teachers doing for 9-10 months if they can't teach everyone in their class how to read on grade level?

The reading standards for each grade level are also laughably bad. If you're on the same level as your grade, you're doing something wrong.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
59372 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:50 pm to
The fact that SPED departments love to label these kids who just start from behind as having some “disability” has always chapped my arse. Yes, there are many legitimate cases of kids needing an IEP. The majority, though, really don’t, and it just turns into learned helplessness.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22842 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:30 pm to
As someone else said, you can’t assume all parents are capable of teaching literacy at home.
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