re: Liberty Safes is going the way of Bud Light on Twitter. Update: Liberty has responded

Crap, I have a Liberty safe. Doesn't have an electronic lock on it just the old fashioned dial and handles.

I was under the impression if I ever forgot the combination, a company safe cracker would have to come and open with a drill or some other procedure.

The FBI is a political tool. They don't care about the constitution. They only listen to what daddy in office says.

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Option A - Liberty Safe doesn’t provide master code. FEDs still open safe but destroy it in process. Option B - Liberty Safe provides code under warrant. FEDs open safe and keep it intact and valuable for owner. Am I way off?

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Doesn’t matter. Public perception is that Liberty helped the government get into its safe without the owners consent.

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And Apple wouldnt even help unlock the San Bernadino shooter's iPhone

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Apple refused and immediately small government conservatives were asking if encryption should be legal without law enforcement being given the keys. I heard them going hard for this on WJBO in the morning.

That didn't fly, so what authoritarians figured out is that they can get support for it if they say they are doing it to police child porn. Remember that guy that had his google accounts locked and phone bricked permanently for sending a doctor a pic of his child?

Apple has floated the idea of decrypting users photos and videos for the purpose of checking for child porn. Obviously this is a gateway to all sorts of intrusion.

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What if there's child porn in there?

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Just because they have a warrant to arrest someone, that doesn't give them any right to go on a fishing expedition to see what else they may be able to find. I'm still not sure why they even had a search warrant in the first place. He was being arrested for being at the capitol on j6. What were they looking for that was related to that? Also, did they even ask the owner if he would rather give them the code or make them destroy the safe?

have any of our OT Centrists swung by to tell us "muh, private business" ?

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Apple refused and immediately small government conservatives were asking if encryption should be legal without law enforcement being given the keys. I heard them going hard for this on WJBO in the morning.

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Yeah, the majority of the pre-Trump era Poliboard ripped Apple hard for this one, too.

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Oh yeah, I forgot Trump himself too...

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Just some people saying its all cool because the FBI would have broken into the safe eventually.

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Those people are worse than the thing they claim to oppose.

Why do they even have the code?

Is the code for every safe built in and you can't change the code to some other private code of your own?

In 2020 Senators Graham (R-SC), Cotton (R-AR), and Blackburn (R-TN) introduced a bill to require backdoors on electronic communication devices and services.



Trump's Attorney General William Barr: “The bill announced…balances the privacy interests of consumers with the public safety interests of the community by requiring the makers of consumer devices to provide law enforcement with access to encrypted data when authorized by a judge. I am confident that our world-class technology companies can engineer secure products that protect user information and allow for lawful access. Data security and public safety are not mutually exclusive. Encryption should keep us safe and secure, not provide an impenetrable safe haven for predators, terrorists, and criminals.”


Larry Cosme, President of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association: “Digital evidence is the new smoking gun of 21st Century law enforcement. Whether in terrorism, child porn or a fraud case, today’s evidence is always tied to a digital platform - of which private companies hold the key to but often won’t turn it. It is long overdo that private companies in the digital world be mandated to help law enforcement and comply with lawful court orders - and the ‘‘Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act’’ by Senator Graham with Senator Cotton and Senator Blackburn is a step toward ensuring those companies are finally mandated to help law enforcement protect America.”