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re: Let the US auto industry die
Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:57 am to Ihatethiscity
Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:57 am to Ihatethiscity
What a dramatic post... 
If you don't the difference between a cheap piece of the the typical Chinese crap and a automobie then buy whatever you want.
The Chinese haven't had a single original thought in their Communist history, and any "technology" they have developed has rikely been stolen from somewhere else. Any research they publish rarely can be verified or duplicated.
In 30 years, their country will be in chaos due to low birth rates, and the population will be only 750M.
I'll pass on buying a shitty car from them.
If you don't the difference between a cheap piece of the the typical Chinese crap and a automobie then buy whatever you want.
The Chinese haven't had a single original thought in their Communist history, and any "technology" they have developed has rikely been stolen from somewhere else. Any research they publish rarely can be verified or duplicated.
In 30 years, their country will be in chaos due to low birth rates, and the population will be only 750M.
I'll pass on buying a shitty car from them.
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:04 am to SallysHuman
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National Security Jobs Not being at the mercy of foreign countries to get from point A to point B in a giant, sprawling country where inner city transportation is a death wish? Cars are the American Ethos Seriously, you think those chinese cars would stay safe and cheap if we had no industry of our own? Dude.
So as a consumer I have to keep buying overpriced shite cars to support a jobs program for people who make overpriced shite cars? If automobiles were so centric to the American ethos you’d think we make better cars. And I say this as someone who generally despises everything about and from China.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:14 am to VooDude
I would rather buy a Nissan built in Mississippi over a Ford built in Mexico.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:20 am to Jimbeaux
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U.S. cars are expensive, complicated, unfriendly to market demands, abd generally unreliable by comparison.
I've also noticed in our recent search for a new vehicle that we just don't have a lot of cheaper trim options on the lots. Way more of the higher end stuff. Like GMC had way more Denali's than the "standard stuff". Rows of Ford Expeditions with leather interiors and no options without. Is that just what they push on us, is that what the market asks for, or do we only buy the American stuff if it's at that level? I realize this is a small segment of full size SUV's but still seems like there's been a shift to not cater to the lower end market at all.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:22 am to N2cars
Listen, I'm no lover of the Chinese, we caught at least one working at our company stealing code and sending it back to China, worked in conjunction with the FBI and got him outa here. However, I agree with many of the posters in here - the U.S. auto industry needs competition. Whatever form that may take.
But also we as a nation have been buying everything from China but we draw the line at a cheap car?
And don't act like you're scared they can have access to what you do in your car when you have Alexa or Siri or Google home all throughout your house.
Lets not even bring up the fact anything on wheels made in the last 10 years has built in backdoors the CIA can hijack to make your car "crash" mysteriously. LINK
But also we as a nation have been buying everything from China but we draw the line at a cheap car?
And don't act like you're scared they can have access to what you do in your car when you have Alexa or Siri or Google home all throughout your house.
Lets not even bring up the fact anything on wheels made in the last 10 years has built in backdoors the CIA can hijack to make your car "crash" mysteriously. LINK
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:30 am to POTUS2024
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Nothing from China can be trusted.
Never trust China made products. Never trust Russian made truth.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:36 am to Jon A thon
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I've also noticed in our recent search for a new vehicle that we just don't have a lot of cheaper trim options on the lots. Way more of the higher end stuff. Like GMC had way more Denali's than the "standard stuff". Rows of Ford Expeditions with leather interiors and no options without. Is that just what they push on us, is that what the market asks for, or do we only buy the American stuff if it's at that level? I realize this is a small segment of full size SUV's but still seems like there's been a shift to not cater to the lower end market at all.
They figured out they could put $10 in electronics/features in the car and charge $5K for it, so they are building only the high profit models. I bet on a denali the profit is 40% of the total cost of the vehicle.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:47 am to kywildcatfanone
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I bet on a denali the profit is 40% of the total cost of the vehicle.
Ferrari and Porsche don't even have margins near that level.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:53 am to VooDude
This is moronic. Sorry. Chinese? F Off.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:56 am to Jon A thon
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I've also noticed in our recent search for a new vehicle that we just don't have a lot of cheaper trim options on the lots.
The local Chevy dealer has three 2024 Silverados left on the lot.
All three are W/T (work truck) trimmed, just like sooooo many here claim they want for a truck while bemoaning the "fact" the factory doesn't make them to push the high trim models on them.
The cheap trucks are the ONLY 2024s left on the lot. Everything else is 2025.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:10 am to Ihatethiscity
We agree on a lot, and no, I don't care about the back door. Hell, I've got a cell phone.
But yes, a cheap Chinese car will be a POS, especially after 3 years.
The US auto industry has lots of competition; have the cars in my garage are German.
Tesla has the most to fear from a Chinese appliance-car IMO.
But yes, a cheap Chinese car will be a POS, especially after 3 years.
The US auto industry has lots of competition; have the cars in my garage are German.
Tesla has the most to fear from a Chinese appliance-car IMO.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:11 am to willymeaux
quote:unfortunately most Nissan cars are made in Mexico as well. I was really hoping these tariffs would have finished them off as Nissans have become just as unreliable shite boxes as American cars.
I would rather buy a Nissan built in Mississippi over a Ford built in Mexico.
I’m not a fan of China, but they do make great electric products, like your phone and laptop, so why not car? It’s a skill issue. China labor is no longer as cheap, but their workers are highly skilled at the same price as a US fast food worker these days making $15 an hour.
Let countries specialize in what they’re good at. Reciprocal tariffs make sense but targeting products because of protectionism when your own product is inferior is outrageous and hurts us.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:24 am to VooDude
quote:
Let the US auto industry die
Not the best place to say this.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:29 am to VooDude
the last thing we need is 10 million cheap chinamen lithium batteries
Parked in a bunch of tinderbox garages built with inferior new growth lumber by cheap Latin migrant labor
Parked in a bunch of tinderbox garages built with inferior new growth lumber by cheap Latin migrant labor
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:30 am to POTUS2024
More German autos
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:16 am to RibsandWhiskey
Were good going against China until
Xi writes Trump another "beautiful letter"
Then Donny gets moist
Xi writes Trump another "beautiful letter"
Then Donny gets moist
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:38 pm to BuckyCheese
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The cheap trucks are the ONLY 2024s left on the lot. Everything else is 2025.
First of all, there’s a middle ground between “all the bells and whistles” and rubber floor mats with hand crank windows.
Secondly, even the so-called cheap trucks are way over-sized (for many people, especially in the city), and WAY overpriced.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:59 pm to Jon A thon
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I've also noticed in our recent search for a new vehicle that we just don't have a lot of cheaper trim options on the lots. Way more of the higher end stuff.
Yea there is a universe where the president of America recently hired to lower prices cut regulations around domestic car requirements and opened our markets to cheaper, simpler and crappier cars. Although a potential risk to our domestic car companies, they would be able to adopt if there proved to be a market for these cars.
Instead we are putting tariffs in place that will raise the price of already unaffordable cars, which in turn raises the price of already high auto insurance.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:15 pm to LSUtoBOOT
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I want a communist Chinese BYD car/suv made by slave child labor that’s more reliable with features well ahead of its time at half the price of the crap I can get here in the US, in hopes that Xi will one day own the entire US.
I hate those frickers just as much, but they make better products than us, facts. The product specifications come from the company based on cost, not from the outsourced manufacturer, yet we blame them for wiggle room within our own profit margins. The IQ of a Chinese manufacturer making $15 an hour there is well over 100, but how about here in the states?
Child manufacturing is no longer a thing in developing countries. And if it is, they choose to do so because it’s their best option. Christ, you sounded like a republican with that statement, but turned into a socialist real fricking quick.
Forever LSU but you guys can be morons sometimes and I love it…as long as you’re willing to learn.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:24 pm to VooDude
Oh they're frigging brilliant, all right.
Did they finally figure out how to build an aircraft carrier? :lol;
Did they finally figure out how to build an aircraft carrier? :lol;
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