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re: Legislation filed to allow parishwide vote on St. George incorporation

Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Senator Yvonne Colomb (Chairman)


You think writing and calling the sponsor of the bill in question that is also the Chairman for the committee is going to get it squashed in committee?

Ha.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:42 pm to
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What would be a very interesting case, would be if law was written to retroactively apply to a certain date.

That is an ex-post facto law and it is illegal in the United States.

Article 1, Section 9, U.S. Constitution
"No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

Article 1, Section 10, U.S. Constitution
"No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility."

A federal judge would shite in their mouths before the words could get out if they tried that.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35651 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:43 pm to
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s should piss off everybody, not just St. George supporters (this will only help it pass by a larger margin). The Democrats are mad - similar to what we're seeing nationally - so now they want to change the rules so people can't decide their own future. That's some Grade A bullshite and she deserves every ounce of ridicule she receives.

Dems like changing the rules so they can win...
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:45 pm to
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You think writing and calling the sponsor of the bill in question that is also the Chairman for the committee is going to get it squashed in committee?

Ha.

That's why the other voting members of the committee are listed.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:46 pm to
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State Sen. Yvonne Colomb, D-Baton Rouge, is sponsoring Senate Bill 63, which provides an exception for parishes with a population of more than 440,000, allowing a parishwide vote in a special election to determine whether an unincorporated area in the parish shall become its own municipality.

The bill would seem to apply only to East Baton Rouge, as it is Louisiana’s only parish with more than 440,000 residents, and, of course, is where the St. George incorporation effort is playing out. Colomb could not be reached for comment by this morning’s deadline.


Wow.
Posted by Morgan56
Member since Jan 2006
1191 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:52 pm to
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makes me a little more supportive.
I would vote for it now because of this crap now... i was also on the fence... no longer....
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:53 pm to
Did you forget that the gov has approved the signatures yet? He will just stall until after this law is voted on
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Tell you the truth. With all this shite being thrown from EBR, once the City is created, the area should put to create a new parrish, SBR. Get out from underneath all the parrish wide taxes that only go to inner city BR.


You want to see a real melt down?
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:59 pm to
Ironic she was so specific with 440,000 residents in a parish; EBR has 446,000 residents.

If somehow they pass this, I will "move" my residence back to EBR just to vote on this measure.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45503 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

once the City is created, the area should put to create a new parrish, SBR


Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28715 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:01 pm to
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she deserves every ounce of ridicule she receives.


You think she will be ridiculed outside of TD’s? Hell no! The Advocate will make her a fricking hero and believe it or not little ole St George has garnered national attention in the past. MoveOn (for whatever reason) has me on their distribution list and spouted off about it a few years back. St George is bigger than BR. JBE would have never stuck his nose in it unless he wasn’t called for by the Broome posse.
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1741 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Wouldn't this law come into effect AFTER the scheduled STG vote? I thought new state laws go into effect in January of the following calendar year.


Article III, Section 19 of the Louisiana Constitution

quote:

All laws enacted during a regular session of the legislature shall take effect on August first of the calendar year in which the regular session is held and all laws enacted during an extraordinary session of the legislature shall take effect on the sixtieth day after final adjournment of the extraordinary session in which they were enacted. All laws shall be published prior thereto in the official journal of the state as provided by law. However, any bill may specify an earlier or later effective date.


August 1st is the default (used to be August 15th) for any legislation enacted during a regular session. The Act can provide for a sooner effective date, i.e signature of the Governor, July 1st, or a later date such as January 1st of following year or in later years.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21468 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:08 pm to
I would vote for it for sure. Everybody deserves a hand up from the gutter that is Baton Rouge
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
516 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to
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Rainey is an idiot. I've long since said that the best thing SG proponents can do is distance themselves from him.


Why is he an idiot? Examples?
Posted by The Next
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
467 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:25 pm to
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allowing a parishwide vote


So the people in Zachary and Central that already voted to incorporate and would likely support SG and the people within BR limits that support SG already get to vote? Even though this wont see the light of day much less survive a court battle, I still like our chances.

quote:

would have a parishwide effect and deserves a parishwide vote.”


I would argue the election of the metro council also has a parish wide effect. Can I vote for council members in another district as well?
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27399 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:53 pm to
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Why should someone from Zachary, or Central, or BR have a voice in something that doesn't directly involve them?


Zachary guy and I absolutely agree. I don’t care what happens one way or the other. But I do believe in the people of the proposed St. George’s right to determine their own governance. Obviously the dynamics of a parish wide vote versus a st George area vote are radically different. But I do think that Zachary and Central would both be in favor of St. George splitting off.
Posted by LAS
Member since Aug 2017
532 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:17 pm to
Really who cares let them have the "City of St. George" if that make people feel elite. At the end of the day you're still waking up in the one of, if not the most lousy states in the country.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
20233 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:19 pm to
Oh, hey it’s one of the urbanites trying to pass this. Why am i not surprised
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45503 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:20 pm to
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Really who cares let them have the "City of St. George" if that make people feel elite


Thank you, it does.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5923 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:58 pm to
Central, and Zachary always turn out for elections, and I would say a large majority of the people in those cities would vote in favor of St.G. Years back when Kip wanted funding for kip land downtown it was pretty much Central, Zachary, and those living in what would be St.G that shot it down. Needless to say it pissed Kip off so he pushed like hell for the loop to cut right through the middle of Central and Zachary.
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