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re: Legislation filed to allow parishwide vote on St. George incorporation
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:40 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:40 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Senator Yvonne Colomb (Chairman)
You think writing and calling the sponsor of the bill in question that is also the Chairman for the committee is going to get it squashed in committee?
Ha.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
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What would be a very interesting case, would be if law was written to retroactively apply to a certain date.
That is an ex-post facto law and it is illegal in the United States.
Article 1, Section 9, U.S. Constitution
"No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."
Article 1, Section 10, U.S. Constitution
"No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility."
A federal judge would shite in their mouths before the words could get out if they tried that.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:43 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:Dems like changing the rules so they can win...
s should piss off everybody, not just St. George supporters (this will only help it pass by a larger margin). The Democrats are mad - similar to what we're seeing nationally - so now they want to change the rules so people can't decide their own future. That's some Grade A bullshite and she deserves every ounce of ridicule she receives.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:45 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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You think writing and calling the sponsor of the bill in question that is also the Chairman for the committee is going to get it squashed in committee?
Ha.
That's why the other voting members of the committee are listed.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:46 pm to InflateADate
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State Sen. Yvonne Colomb, D-Baton Rouge, is sponsoring Senate Bill 63, which provides an exception for parishes with a population of more than 440,000, allowing a parishwide vote in a special election to determine whether an unincorporated area in the parish shall become its own municipality.
The bill would seem to apply only to East Baton Rouge, as it is Louisiana’s only parish with more than 440,000 residents, and, of course, is where the St. George incorporation effort is playing out. Colomb could not be reached for comment by this morning’s deadline.
Wow.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:52 pm to Brummy
quote:I would vote for it now because of this crap now... i was also on the fence... no longer....
makes me a little more supportive.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:53 pm to Tigeralum2008
Did you forget that the gov has approved the signatures yet? He will just stall until after this law is voted on
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:56 pm to CarRamrod
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Tell you the truth. With all this shite being thrown from EBR, once the City is created, the area should put to create a new parrish, SBR. Get out from underneath all the parrish wide taxes that only go to inner city BR.
You want to see a real melt down?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:59 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Ironic she was so specific with 440,000 residents in a parish; EBR has 446,000 residents.
If somehow they pass this, I will "move" my residence back to EBR just to vote on this measure.
If somehow they pass this, I will "move" my residence back to EBR just to vote on this measure.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:01 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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once the City is created, the area should put to create a new parrish, SBR

Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:01 pm to TigersSEC2010
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she deserves every ounce of ridicule she receives.
You think she will be ridiculed outside of TD’s? Hell no! The Advocate will make her a fricking hero and believe it or not little ole St George has garnered national attention in the past. MoveOn (for whatever reason) has me on their distribution list and spouted off about it a few years back. St George is bigger than BR. JBE would have never stuck his nose in it unless he wasn’t called for by the Broome posse.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:07 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Wouldn't this law come into effect AFTER the scheduled STG vote? I thought new state laws go into effect in January of the following calendar year.
Article III, Section 19 of the Louisiana Constitution
quote:
All laws enacted during a regular session of the legislature shall take effect on August first of the calendar year in which the regular session is held and all laws enacted during an extraordinary session of the legislature shall take effect on the sixtieth day after final adjournment of the extraordinary session in which they were enacted. All laws shall be published prior thereto in the official journal of the state as provided by law. However, any bill may specify an earlier or later effective date.
August 1st is the default (used to be August 15th) for any legislation enacted during a regular session. The Act can provide for a sooner effective date, i.e signature of the Governor, July 1st, or a later date such as January 1st of following year or in later years.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:08 pm to InflateADate
I would vote for it for sure. Everybody deserves a hand up from the gutter that is Baton Rouge
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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Rainey is an idiot. I've long since said that the best thing SG proponents can do is distance themselves from him.
Why is he an idiot? Examples?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:25 pm to InflateADate
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allowing a parishwide vote
So the people in Zachary and Central that already voted to incorporate and would likely support SG and the people within BR limits that support SG already get to vote? Even though this wont see the light of day much less survive a court battle, I still like our chances.
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would have a parishwide effect and deserves a parishwide vote.”
I would argue the election of the metro council also has a parish wide effect. Can I vote for council members in another district as well?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:53 pm to Alt26
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Why should someone from Zachary, or Central, or BR have a voice in something that doesn't directly involve them?
Zachary guy and I absolutely agree. I don’t care what happens one way or the other. But I do believe in the people of the proposed St. George’s right to determine their own governance. Obviously the dynamics of a parish wide vote versus a st George area vote are radically different. But I do think that Zachary and Central would both be in favor of St. George splitting off.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:17 pm to InflateADate
Really who cares let them have the "City of St. George" if that make people feel elite. At the end of the day you're still waking up in the one of, if not the most lousy states in the country.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:19 pm to InflateADate
Oh, hey it’s one of the urbanites trying to pass this. Why am i not surprised
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:20 pm to LAS
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Really who cares let them have the "City of St. George" if that make people feel elite
Thank you, it does.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:58 pm to rmc
Central, and Zachary always turn out for elections, and I would say a large majority of the people in those cities would vote in favor of St.G. Years back when Kip wanted funding for kip land downtown it was pretty much Central, Zachary, and those living in what would be St.G that shot it down. Needless to say it pissed Kip off so he pushed like hell for the loop to cut right through the middle of Central and Zachary.
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