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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:50 am to
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Oh for the love of god at least take the time to open up google maps and take a look at the area around Odessa.


But but Odessa is just two inches away on the map and the map is flat! You could roll multiple BTGs in as the crow flies by tomorrow morning and wrap up the coastline by noon. Why you military folks so stupid? Three decade old Chicken a la King MREs rot your brain?


* can't help a "war" story: went on a 6 day FTX back in the late 80s and instead of mixed MREs every box for our entire company was Chicken a la King. The first 3 weren't bad but by number 4 they made me almost puke just opening them.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:51 am to
I used to love MREs until I had to live a month on them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:53 am to
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Impossible to recover economically.


Ukraine will have so much foreign aid pouring in...

It will be their version of the Marshall Plan.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22892 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:06 pm to
The problem was and is that Mariupol and other cities weren't "separatist." They could do it to small Russian speaking rural towns but not larger cities. Slowly move the population, offer people passports to go to Russia then don't let them go back to Ukraine because Ukraine is under territorial dispute and it is too dangerous, forced relocation but with a smile.

But as it stands now, Russia is now faced with an eternal insurgency. Donbas will never be Russias, it'll be a war torn territory indefinitely, and the land bridge to Crimea will never be fully operational, it will always have incursions and attacks upon it. It's a disaster for Russia, and Putin is too arrogant to see otherwise.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Obtuse1


Did you see this analysis of the Oryx Data? Certainly it is not definitive and represents incomplete knowledge, but it is interesting.

europmaidanpress/Oryx analysis
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:12 pm to
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It's a disaster for Russia, and Putin is too arrogant to see otherwise.





I don't know if it's true but I've seen a couple times now references to Putin having blood cancer. If that's true and he dies in the near future that might change the dynamics some
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:22 pm to
We were debating which was worse last night, Dehydrated pork patty or the chicken a La king.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30783 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Did you see this analysis of the Oryx Data? Certainly it is not definitive and represents incomplete knowledge, but it is interesting.


I had not seen it and it is interesting.

That being said I don't lend complete credence to their Ukrainian numbers since they are clearly Ukranian biased. The way they document them it would be much harder to over-represent Russian losses than under-represent Ukrainian losses. That doesn't mean I don't smile when I look at the page each day.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30783 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:28 pm to
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We were debating which was worse last night, Dehydrated pork patty or the chicken a La king.


Before that debacle, I would have said pork patty every time, after I would beg to trade someone a Chicken a la crap for ANYTHING else.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Seconded for a sticky.



Thirded
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:42 pm to
RA'd for sticky as well.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:43 pm to
I just RA'd to sticky it, also.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:44 pm to
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That being said I don't lend complete credence to their Ukrainian numbers since they are clearly Ukranian biased. The way they document them it would be much harder to over-represent Russian losses than under-represent Ukrainian losses. That doesn't mean I don't smile when I look at the page each day


I think Oryx has an accidental Ukraine lean/bias. However, the two authors are Dutch (Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans), and have an authorship and blog that far precedes this war. For instance if you go go about page 41 in their blog you see ISIS equipment captures, and a lot of work on North Korea capability.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:48 pm to
Pork with rice and BBQ sauce was the worst.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:48 pm to
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I just RA'd to sticky it, also.


Same
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:49 pm to
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I used to love MREs until I had to live a month on them.

Yeah they're ok for a few days but after that they constipate the hell out of you.

Chili Mac MRE FTW.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:56 pm to
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DabosDynasty
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now they absolutely have to have them. China gained significant leverage over Russia.


Russia has fricked themselves. They are now more isolated from the EU, face a renewed, expanded NATO and will likely be beholden to China even more than ever. China, however, sits idley by watching everyone else increase China's geopolitical prestige. Sun Tzu would be proud of China.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
1486 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:01 pm to
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I just RA'd to sticky it, also.


Replicated. I don’t want to be searching for this thread on the daily.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1053 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:12 pm to
Long time reader of this thread - also support bringing back the sticky
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5775 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:16 pm to
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RA'd for sticky as well.


Ditto
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