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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:48 pm to
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That's basically the Kremlin line.

There is another documentary, Winter On Fire that gives the perspective of the Euromaidan protestors. You've said you don't believe propaganda and yet you've decided Oliver Stone who is echoing the Kremlin perspective is reliable.




I haven't seen that I will watch it.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13561 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:57 pm to
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Russia is going to continue pumping out weapons, tanks, and ammunition as the war goes on too.


Russia's two tank factories are idle. They can't get the electronics they need to produce new vehicles.

You simply do not know what you're talking about.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8198 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:59 pm to
I have no idea where their next line of defense is, but I'm fairly certain they have one; they've certainly had time to prepare it.

Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22892 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:02 pm to
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You continue to express your naivety with every post. Please watch the Oliver Stone documentaries for the truth on what went on in Ukraine in 2014 and beyond.

Who did you serve with and in what theatre?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:10 pm to
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I think putin will invest whatever manpower needed to win the entire war over the months and years to come.


Where is Russia going to get the equipment to arm its soldiers and properly outfit its army?

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Ukraine has a much lower ceiling on troop numbers.


Not really. Russia has roughly 3 million active and reserve troops. There is no way Russia can mobilize its entire active and reserve forces for "special military operation" without admitting it is getting its arse kicked. It definitely cannot justify a mobilization and conscription of its entire MAM population for a "special military operation." Ukraine on the other hand is fighting for its survival and not only does not have to justify its mobilization to its people it has already started the process of mobilizing its reserves and planning larger mobilizations. It also has to find a way to pay its soldiers. It is currently not giving the bonuses that it promised its soldiers or compensating their families. How is it suppose to pay another 2 million soldiers.


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I don't see a circumstance where he allows Ukraine and Zelensky to survive.



1. You are not God and cannot see everything.

2. Putin is not God and gets to decide who is a nation and who is not.

3. The opponent always gets a say and Ukraine's response to Putin and Russia was and still is "Idi na Khoy!"
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:24 pm to
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It appears that they've drawn back troops out of the Kharkiv region to focus on the Donbas area, similar to what they did earlier in the war with Kyiv.


Russia did not withdraw its troops from the Kharkiv region. Ukraine pushed the Russian troops out of the Kharkiv region. Russia did not withdraw its troops from around Kyiv by choice. Russia withdrew its troops from Kyiv because Ukraine counter attacked and was close to encircling them. Russia claimed that it was withdrawing its troops to focus on the Donbas to try and save face with gullible people like you.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22598 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:32 pm to
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3. The opponent always gets a say and Ukraine's response to Putin and Russia was and still is "Idi na Khoy!"


Your enemy gets a vote…. Russia has been learning that the hard way for 11 weeks now.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13178 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:34 pm to
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You have to pick a team, and you can never, ever agree with the other team.


Yeah, either Magastan or Wokeistan (credit to Eric Weinstein for this gem). Both have formed their own dug in echo chambers. Good luck having a rational discussion with either.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17735 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:49 pm to
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It also has to find a way to pay its soldiers. It is currently not giving the bonuses that it promised its soldiers or compensating their families. How is it suppose to pay another 2 million soldiers.


I can't think of a better way to spend the millions of dollars seized from oligarchs than to pay for the soldiers leading their demise.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Magastan or Wokeistan




Middlestan needs an army.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14241 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:51 pm to
Stidham8:
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You're so caught up in your bubble of propaganda that you refuse to watch anything that refutes your narrative.

That's all I need to know. Sad, really.


Dis you?

Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8198 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:53 pm to
You can't blame him for his optimism, He didn't know that the attack from the north was really just a feint.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 2:53 pm to


Well at least he is consistently wrong.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14241 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:00 pm to
I'm telling you this guy is immune to propaganda.

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:02 pm to
Two and a half months ago have little to do with the current progress that Russia is universally seeing along the front in Southeast Ukraine.

Early in the war it looked bleak for Kyiv with how quickly the Russians advanced to the outskirts of the suburbs there.

This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38293 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:02 pm to
holy shite

Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14241 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:03 pm to
At least your first sentence was right here:

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:05 pm to
Timelapse of russian advances in the last week
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:06 pm to
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At least your first sentence was right here:


There won't be any serious negotiations. Russia will totally eliminate the Ukrainian military.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38293 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:16 pm to
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There won't be any serious negotiations. Russia will totally eliminate the Ukrainian military.



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Stidham8


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