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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:29 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:29 pm to Stidham8
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I'm not sure what that has to do in the slightest with the level of corruption of the United States government or the corruption of Ukraine.
You equated the US with Russia, and it's nowhere near the same.
Only someone who has no actual experience outside his own little bubble would even utter something so ludicrous.
Just as ludicrous as saying the US is the most racist nation on the planet.
You and progressives are two sides of the same coin.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 1:30 pm
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:30 pm to BRIllini07
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The USA isn’t sunshine and roses, but it’s a heck of a lot better than Russia and China,
We've got a better economic system but that has nothing to do with shady political leaders and government institutions that for decades have used their power to infiltrate other countries and corrupt and overthrow their governments.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:33 pm to BRIllini07
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What is it that gets in your heads that the world is some binary place, where everything is either X or the exact opposite of X?
He is the perfect product of our mass media. You have to pick a team, and you can never, ever agree with the other team.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:33 pm to Centinel
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You equated the US with Russia, and it's nowhere near the same.
Only someone who has no actual experience outside his own little bubble would even utter something so ludicrous.
Just as ludicrous as saying the US is the most racist nation on the planet.
You and progressives are two sides of the same coin.
You continue to express your naivety with every post. Please watch the Oliver Stone documentaries for the truth on what went on in Ukraine in 2014 and beyond.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:33 pm to Stidham8
It appears that the goal of Stidham8 is to monopolize and derail any actual discussion of the war and inject all the pro-Russo propaganda he/she/it can muster. I vote we stop responding to him. It's a waste.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:35 pm to TBoy
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It appears that the goal of Stidham8 is to monopolize and derail any actual discussion of the war and inject all the pro-Russo propaganda he/she/it can muster. I vote we stop responding to him. It's a waste.
I'd just like to have a few of you watch the documentaries and get back to me. It's comedy hour around here with everyone defending Ukraine and the United States like they're morally correct in what they've done in the region. And I'm not defending Russia, they're evil too.
Pure products of propaganda. I bet several in this thread have Ukrainian flags on their front porch.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:36 pm to Stidham8
You politicals keep contaminating this board. We have a board for politics.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:37 pm to Stidham8
Centinel is right. Eastern Europeans don't believe this because they live it day in and day out. They don't trust the Russians. The Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians are mortgaging themselves to the hilt to support the Ukrainians because they actually have skin in the game.
The Finns just a few minutes ago voted out of their defense committee the recommendation to join NATO.
You say you don't believe propaganda yet you believe Oliver Stone over the first people who'd be taking the brunt of a Russian attack.
The Finns just a few minutes ago voted out of their defense committee the recommendation to join NATO.
You say you don't believe propaganda yet you believe Oliver Stone over the first people who'd be taking the brunt of a Russian attack.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:37 pm to Stidham8
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You continue to express your naivety with every post. Please watch the Oliver Stone documentaries for the truth on what went on in Ukraine in 2014 and beyond.
do you pray to oliver Stone before you go to bed? i like the guy on some things but he's irretrievably broken due to his Vietnam experience. Rest assured that if/when China invades Taiwan, Stone, Greenwald, the Poliboard, etc will start posting youtubes about how Taiwan is actually the evil, fascist, racist country.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:38 pm to jeffsdad
You can't talk about the war without talking about what sources are reliable.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:39 pm to TigerDoc
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Centinel is right. Eastern Europeans don't believe this because they live it day in and day out. They don't trust the Russians. The Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians are mortgaging themselves to the hilt to
The Finns just a few minutes ago voted out of their defense committee the recommendation to join NATO.
You say you don't believe propaganda yet you believe Oliver Stone over the first people who'd be take the brunt of a Russian attack.
Stone did the research into what actually happened in 2014 and afterwards. It's corrupt as shite what the United States did. It's not the first time they've done it either.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:40 pm to Stidham8
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Please watch the Oliver Stone documentaries for the truth on what went on in Ukraine in 2014 and beyond.
You want me to get the truth from a documentary directed by a Putin supporter, that interviews Putin, Yanukovych, and Zakharchenko (the swell guy who was removed from office for signing a decree to use live ammunition on protestors) to explain why what happened in 2014?
And you sit there and call me naive? And that I'm falling for propaganda?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:40 pm to REG861
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do you pray to oliver Stone before you go to bed? i like the guy on some things but he's irretrievably broken due to his Vietnam experience.
Have you watched his two documentaries on Ukraine?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:40 pm to TBoy
quote:get everyone to watch Stone documentaries.
It appears that the goal of Stidham8 is to
LOL
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:42 pm to Centinel
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You want me to get the truth from a documentary directed by a Putin supporter, that interviews Putin, Yanukovych, and Zakharchenko (the swell guy who was removed from office for signing a decree to use live ammunition on protestors) to explain why what happened in 2014?
And you sit there and call me naive? And that I'm falling for propaganda?
You're so caught up in your bubble of propaganda that you refuse to watch anything that refutes your narrative.
That's all I need to know. Sad, really.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:42 pm to Stidham8
That's basically the Kremlin line.
There is another documentary, Winter On Fire that gives the perspective of the Euromaidan protestors. You've said you don't believe propaganda and yet you've decided Oliver Stone who is echoing the Kremlin perspective is reliable.
There is another documentary, Winter On Fire that gives the perspective of the Euromaidan protestors. You've said you don't believe propaganda and yet you've decided Oliver Stone who is echoing the Kremlin perspective is reliable.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:42 pm to TigerDoc
Just an excuse for y’all not to post on correct board.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:44 pm to Stidham8
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Again, check out the Oliver Stone documentaries for some truth.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:46 pm to Stidham8
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Have you watched his two documentaries on Ukraine?
Nope. Do they talk about how Russia tried to poison and kill Viktor Yuschenko?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:48 pm to Chromdome35
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Never forget the other side has a say in what happens
That’s always true.
Politics is a factor, Kiev doesn’t want to give up territory, because it could jeopardize western aid. That compels the UA to defend positions even when they become untenable.
For the soldiers in Lischansk and Severodonetsk it’s probably just too late. The Russians cut their MSR. And there isn’t a road out at this point.
I also believe the Ukrainians would be very reluctant to leave their prepared defenses in Kramatorsk and Sloviansk. What is your next line of defense?
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