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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Yeah, either Magastan or Wokeistan


perfect.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:19 pm to
The Germans in WWII took France in a month and a half, and their half of Poland in a month and a week.

The Soviet Union took their half of Poland in two weeks in 1939.

This is “dragging on” by blitzkreig standards



Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:20 pm to
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There won't be any serious negotiations. Russia will totally eliminate the Ukrainian military.


Look at this guy. No background in international politics or security policy, no military background, has never left the US.

But he is absolutely certain of the above.

That's like me walking in to a civil engineering firm and telling them they're all wrong and all their buildings will collapse in a week because of it, with no background in engineering.

Then after they don't collapse, I just tell them it will be a few more weeks. But they will still certainly collapse.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5777 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:22 pm to
Russian Guided Weapons Miss the Mark, U.S. Defense Officials Say

The official also said that sanctions and export controls established after Russia invaded Ukraine had limited Moscow’s access to the kinds of electronic components it needed to build guided weapons, thus affecting Putin’s ability to restock his military with modern aerial munitions.

Russia’s lack of guided weapons, and their often poor accuracy when used, offers more indications of just how far behind Moscow’s armed forces are compared with Western militaries.

Originally published by NY Times

Yahoo News
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14241 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:22 pm to
Putin's actual puppet in Belarus, Lukashenko, admits the war is "dragging on" beyond expectations, but user Stidham8 assures us that everything is going exactly to plan.

Turns out Lukashenko is just another victim of Western propaganda. Sad.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:22 pm to
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The Germans in WWII took France in a month and a half, and their half of Poland in a month and a week.

The Soviet Union took their half of Poland in two weeks in 1939.

This is “dragging on” by blitzkreig standards




It will drag on for a while. Probably years. The US is dumping endless weapons into the war prolonging it.

It'll end up as much of a success as Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Iraq.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:22 pm to
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but user Stidham8 assures us that everything is going exactly to plan.


Like I said earlier, he makes more excuses for the Russians than they make for themselves.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14241 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:24 pm to
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It'll end up as much of a success as Afghanistan
Tell me a little bit more about Russia's success in invading Afghanistan against a US-funded resistance group.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:25 pm to
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That's basically the Kremlin line.

There is another documentary, Winter On Fire that gives the perspective of the Euromaidan protestors. You've said you don't believe propaganda and yet you've decided Oliver Stone who is echoing the Kremlin perspective is reliable.



I haven't seen that I will watch it.


You should. It is really good. Not just the information present but the way it is put together. It won best documentary at the 2015 Toronto Film Festival and it should have won the Academy Award for Best Documentary that year but the elite Hollywood ppl who decide those kind of things gave the award to a film about Amy Winehouse. The fact that Hollywood did not give an award to a film about the Maiden movement proves that the Maiden movement was not started by the CIA or the Obama State Department. Hollywood was so in love with Obama that if it had been a result of the Obama administration anything to do with the Maiden revolution would have won award after award from Hollywood.

Also got some bad news for you baw.

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Nathan Ruser
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Unconfirmed but solid reports that Ukrainian troops have reached the Russian border to the North-East of Kharkiv near the town of Ternova. Today the UAF General Staff announced that Russian troops have withdrawn across the border. This unconfirmed news makes that seem more likely

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Ukraine has driven Russia back to its border. Ukrainian force are likely to be within artillery range of Vovchansk which is on the main lines of communications between Russian forces in Izyum and Russia's logistics hub of Belogrod in the next 24 hours. At that point Russia will have to send its supply convoys on a 150+ km detour over two lane Russian roads which are not built to carry the weight of Russian equipment to keep the Russian forces on the Izyum axis of advance supplied. Since the Izyum axis of advance has ground to a halt and Ukrainians are finding intact Russian tanks abandoned because they are out of fuel in that area of the front; I do not see any scenario how a 150+ km detour does not cost Russia.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:27 pm to
Good news like that for a few days and this troll will go back into hiding
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:27 pm to
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It'll end up as much of a success as Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Iraq.


You might want to check RT for your updated talking points. That talking point expired about two weeks ago.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Putin's actual puppet in Belarus, Lukashenko, admits the war is "dragging on" beyond expectations, but user Stidham8 assures us that everything is going exactly to plan.

Turns out Lukashenko is just another victim of Western propaganda. Sad.



It looked like it would be a quick victory early on but it became pretty clear that it would go on for a while after they pulled out of Kyiv.

They're advancing in the Southeast at a pretty steady rate now.

This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Good news like that for a few days and this troll will go back into hiding



Ukraine does not even need the NATO supplied artillery to shell any supply convoy coming through Vovchansk. It has both soviet rocket and tube artillery pieces that have the range. I can't wait to see the explosions from a Russian fuel wagon or truck carrying ammo get hit by a 203 mm shell.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Ukraine has driven Russia back to its border. Ukrainian force are likely to be within artillery range of Vovchansk which is on the main lines of communications between Russian forces in Izyum and Russia's logistics hub of Belogrod in the next 24 hours. At that point Russia will have to send its supply convoys on a 150+ km detour over two lane Russian roads which are not built to carry the weight of Russian equipment to keep the Russian forces on the Izyum axis of advance supplied. Since the Izyum axis of advance has ground to a halt and Ukrainians are finding intact Russian tanks abandoned because they are out of fuel in that area of the front; I do not see any scenario how a 150+ km detour does not cost Russia.



It's pretty clear that they're withdrawing out of the Kharkiv region to focus on the Southeast where they're having major success.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:35 pm to
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It will drag on for a while. Probably years. The US is dumping endless weapons into the war prolonging it. It'll end up as much of a success as Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Iraq.


Success means something different here though, for US political interests. As far as the US is concerned, if Russia gets bled dry trying to wage this war, even if Russia “wins” so does the US…. without one US “normal” troop being involved.

International money is going to be pouring into US defense companies soon enough (which also means tax dollars originating from outside the US). This whole thing is a giant commercial for US weapons superiority.

Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
1486 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:36 pm to
If having such major success down there, then why do they need the troops to reinforce them?!

You are a looney tune.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:36 pm to
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They're advancing in the Southeast at a pretty steady rate now.



You mean on the Kherson front? The only direction that Russia has moved on the Kherson front in the last month has been away from Mykolaiv and falling back to Kherson.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6658 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Stidham8



"It won't be long now!!!"

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:40 pm to
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You mean on the Kherson front? The only direction that Russia has moved on the Kherson front in the last month has been away from Mykolaiv and falling back to Kherson.


Yampil, Izium, and Popasna. That appears to be the focus of their entire operation at the moment.

The green circles are the significant fighting areas.

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10514 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:42 pm to
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Success means something different here though, for US political interests. As far as the US is concerned, if Russia gets bled dry trying to wage this war, even if Russia “wins” so does the US…. without one US “normal” troop being involved.

International money is going to be pouring into US defense companies soon enough (which also means tax dollars originating from outside the US). This whole thing is a giant commercial for US weapons superiority.



It is a huge failure for the US if the current puppet government falls to the Russians and they annex Ukraine or install their own puppet government.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 3:43 pm
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