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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46632 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:22 pm to
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More 155s


The beauty of NATO's ammunition standardization. Various countries can donate arty pieces, and they all use the same 155 shell.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3210 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:22 pm to
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I feel your pain man. I'm still finding sand from the various middle eastern shitholes I deployed to.


The Pacific Navy side is a mix of good and bad with China soaking up so much more attention. More sailors posted on Guam (bad), but more port calls to Australia (good).
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5856 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:24 pm to
Best news I've read today. Didn't realize just how much revenue they provide Putin.

Russia Tried to Sell a Huge Slug of Oil. Nobody Wanted It.

If Rosneft keeps struggling to sell, it would represent a further shock for an economy already locked out of much of Western finance and commerce. The company says it is Russia’s biggest taxpayer, contributing a fifth of budget revenue. In total, Russia’s oil and gas sales made up 45% of the federal budget in 2021, according to the International Energy Agency.


Originally published by Wall Street Journal

Yahoo link
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45906 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Well it's a better move than Rand Paul repeating Russian talking points today


I lost a lot of respect for Rand today.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5856 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:38 pm to
Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III Holds a News Conference Following Ukraine Defense Consultative Group Meeting, Ramstein Air Base, Germany
April 26, 2022

And I wanted to especially welcome a major decision by our German hosts, as Minister Lambrecht announced just today that Germany will send Ukraine some 50 Cheetah anti-aircraft systems.

And yesterday, of course, the British government announced that it would provide Ukraine with additional anti-aircraft capabilities as well. And today, Canada announced that it will send Ukraine eight armored vehicles.


DoD Link
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126853 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:46 pm to
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I'd bet China/NK/Iran/etc join. Anything to take America and friends down.


None of those countries have the ability to project power

China still struggles to do so in its own back yard
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126853 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 4:57 pm to
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What’s stopping him from just activating now?


Bc its a special military operation

Mass conscription basically admits he started a war that he isn’t winning
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22598 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:02 pm to
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What’s stopping him from just activating now?


Politically it’s risky… he’d be admitting his special operation is a failure… and you’re upping the chances for public backlash.

We see it here all the time… it’s easy to be pro war when it’s lot your sons and daughters going to die.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126853 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:25 pm to
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That is bullshite. When was the last time any French gun fired 6 shots before surrendering?


In pretty much every unified western conflict since WW2

And basically on there own in Africa
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4701 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:26 pm to
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StraightCashHomey21


This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Baw Vivant
Member since Mar 2022
223 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Maybe, maybe not. But in this case, the penalty for being wrong is significant.


No doubt, but that penalty works both ways and there’s nothing about inaction that is less risky than action.

Unfortunately for everyone - especially him - Vlad got us in a position to guess right. I hope we do.

The only sure thing is his stupid arse loses either way.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45906 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:40 pm to
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That is bullshite. When was the last time any French gun fired 6 shots before surrendering? In pretty much every unified western conflict since WW2 And basically on there own in Africa


Screw the French.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30971 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Screw the French.


Whilst reading your thread I decided I agree.

Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13195 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:19 pm to
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When was the last time any French gun fired 6 shots before surrendering? In pretty much every unified western conflict since WW2


To be fair, though, they were tough as nails in WWI. They didn't have the heart or leadership in WWII. Germany was motivated like Ukraine is now, and like Russia isn't.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13195 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:25 pm to
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Canada announced that it will send Ukraine eight armored vehicles.


Huzzah, I guess. Maybe a symbol is all that they can manage.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 6:26 pm to
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WWII.


The Free French in Italy were without a doubt the most dependable fighters.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3210 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 7:48 pm to
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None of those countries have the ability to project power


The US really is the only true power projector. We’ve been involved in every conflict you can think of, winning our fair share, and haven’t had a “home game” in well over a century.

Even when another country wants to challenge us on our homeland (December 7th, 1941 and September 11th, 2001), the fight quickly moves right back to their back yard.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8205 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:13 pm to
Interesting paper that Michael Kofman Linked:

Operation Z: The Death Throes of Imperial Delusion

quote:

The VDV – Russia’s airborne forces – spearheaded the invasion. In December, specialist units of
the VDV had wargamed out their role in the repression of Ukrainian civil society alongside the 9th
Directorate of the Fifth Service of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB).9 The VDV assault units
received the plan three days before the invasion and started excitedly talking in anticipation of
their daring operation. VDV commanders started discussing their primary objective at Hostomel
in clear. When they landed, therefore, they were met with Ukrainian artillery and a coordinated
counterattack, quickly being driven from the airport. Meanwhile, to the north, Ukrainian units
fought a delaying action with considerable success. The Russian motor rifle and Rosgvardia
troops had received their orders less than 24 hours before the invasion. As a consequence, they
did not fight a methodical campaign of breakthrough and exploitation by successive echelons as
their doctrine dictated, nor were they supported by sufficient artillery as is considered essential.
Instead, they were pushed forwards along two main resupply routes (MSRs) towards distant
objectives without reconnaissance or screening to their flanks.10 The Rosgvardia, intended to
provide rear-area security,11 sometimes ended up advancing ahead of combat units.12 The speed
of some armoured units allowed them to drive into Kyiv’s suburbs only 48 hours into the war,
but, as they were miles ahead of the main body of Russian ground forces, all this achieved
was their isolation and destruction.13 With little opportunity to prepare, psychologically or
practically, many Russian units broke when they met serious resistance.


quote:

The Russians continued to advance, but at an increasingly heavy price,18 so
that by the time they had secured Hostomel and were in place to launch an attack on Kyiv, it
was clear that they lacked the combat power to successfully seize the city. Instead, the Russians
moved to encircle the capital, but in doing so came into range of more and more Ukrainian
artillery units and exposed more of their depth to raiding.


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e. Eventually the Kremlin realised that pushing more forces south would not lead
to progress. So long as they were moving along the same MSRs they would suffer heavily from
artillery. Nor did the units in place have the combat power to break into the Ukrainian capital.
The decision was therefore taken to withdraw and to refocus efforts on Donbas.24 Russian units
retreating from Kyiv on the Belarus axis were put under a withering and sustained barrage as
Ukrainian artillery followed their retreat northwards.


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The announcement of the reorientation of Russian operations to Donbas left a number of
Western analysts bemused by the gap between Russia’s aspirations and its capabilities.25 Some
analysts26 – including one of the authors of this report27 – assumed that the initial intent to
announce a success on 9 May would force this offensive to be launched early, and there was a
general consensus among Western observers that the Russian military lacked the combat power
in the region to execute the operation


The paper goes on to discuss the broader economic and political aspects of the invasion and potential future pressure points for Russia based on its imperialistic goals.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

the Russian military lacked the combat power
in the region to execute the operation


Thats the story of this 'security operation".
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4701 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:58 pm to
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??#Ukrainians attacked a military storage near Briansk city of #Russia. LINK
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