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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:48 pm to
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Now, that could be a cover for harpoons provided by the US.


I think that is the case. The harpoons we sent them were stripped of “secretive technology” just in case the Russians manage to get hold of one. The Ukrainians did a fine job with the basic missile.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38341 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:49 pm to
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The lack of professionalism and discipline is amazing



Reagan once said that there was no Russian word for "freedom." He might as well have added "winning."
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Now, that could be a cover for harpoons provided by the US.




Harpoon cracks ships in two pieces. The Neptunes are an old platform but have some serious upgrades. I suspect they are using the older inventory and keeping the new stuff for later.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 3:58 pm to
It’s poignant that the Ukrainians sank the Russians’ flagship which was built in Ukraine during the Soviet era.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
75881 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:05 pm to
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It’s poignant that the Ukrainians sank the Russians’ flagship which was built in Ukraine during the Soviet era.
Isn't that ironic?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42966 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:11 pm to
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From what I was reading last might, they distracted the Russians with a drone then hit them with missiles coming from another direction.


But when did the ammo blow up?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:13 pm to
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You have to think that our military can knock down every Russian missile before they leave that country.


Hell, that's assuming half of them even work or don't detonate upon ignition.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:23 pm to
Russian state news agency TASS reported Thursday evening that the guided-missile cruiser Moskva had sunk, citing a statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense.

“During the towing of the cruiser Moskva to the port of destination, the ship lost its stability due to hull damage received during a fire from the detonation of ammunition. In the conditions of stormy seas, the ship sank,” the statement said, according to TASS.

cnn LINK
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22598 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:37 pm to
Moskva’s sinking appears to be the first naval vessel lost to enemy action since the Falklands campaign 40 years ago (Argentinian cruiser Belgrano).
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:41 pm to
Russian technology going up against western technology is looking like the Poles on horseback going up against German tanks at the beginning of World War II.

China must be squirming after having purchased so many SU-35s, an aircraft carrier and other military equipment from the Russians.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:45 pm to
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Moskva’s sinking appears to be the first naval vessel lost to enemy action since the Falklands campaign 40 years ago (Argentinian cruiser Belgrano).


Doesn't the Russian landing ship that the Ukrainians sank a couple of weeks ago in Berdansk count?
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11949 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 4:47 pm to
That one I think was salvageable I think because they flooded it and only sank it to 5 feet before the ammo on board could blow.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31327 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:09 pm to
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During the towing of the cruiser Moskva to the port of destination, the ship lost its stability due to hull damage received during a fire from the detonation of ammunition.


Sounds about par for the course
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:18 pm to
It would be impossible for a submarine to secretly negotiate the Dardanelles and Bosporus wouldn’t it? Not enough depth and too narrow?
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:46 pm to
The minimum depth of the Bosporus per Wikipedia is about 43 feet, no way to submerge that shallow. Even scraping the bottom the sail would be half out of the water.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 5:49 pm to
Would Turkey allow a night surfaced transit under cover of darkness without saying anything is another question, but I don’t think the US wants to put that important of an asset in the Black Sea at the moment.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30004 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 6:05 pm to


Ukrainians are about to start repairs on the ship.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126853 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 6:09 pm to
Can’t wait to the drone footage of the strike or the non encrypted radio traffic from the Russian ship to higher gets released when they got attacked

Hilarious what is supposed to be a near peer doesn’t use encryption for their combat radio traffic
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31327 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 6:29 pm to
In Soviet Russia, message encrypt you
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 4/14/22 at 6:54 pm to
No matter how this turns out I don’t think it is even debatable anymore that Russia vs Ukraine is a much more even match than Russia vs USA would be. Heck you could replace USA with Britain or France and it would probably still be true.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 9:42 pm
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