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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:30 am to
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:30 am to


Video doesn’t have English subtitles so have nothing but the accounts statement on it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42966 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:32 am to
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Video doesn’t have English subtitles so have nothing but the accounts statement on it.


It doesn’t matter, we have Russian translators lurking who will tell us what Putin meant.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:34 am to
There was another thread where people were maintaining Ukraine has always been part of Russia and that Ukrainians are Russian.

Seems they've been listening to Uncle Vlad.
Posted by Coleridge
Houston
Member since Dec 2020
315 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:36 am to
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Russia is not occupying wheat fields.


quote:

Are they still being actively farmed?


Cursorily.

Yet across the gulf of the wheat fields, minds that to Russian minds are as ours are to the beasts in the jungle, intellects vast, cool and unsympathetic, regard the armored combat vehicles with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against the Russians.

This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4701 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:46 am to
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Putin just repeated the lie that Belarus and Russia are one nation


That’s not exactly a lie sadly
quote:

In 1999, Belarus and Russia signed a treaty that committed them to merging into a confederal state at some future point. (At the time, President Boris Yeltsin of Russia was so sick and unpopular, Lukashenko believed he might head the eventual union.)

Really long but great article about Belarus

ETA: I missed the Ukraine part of that tweet. But the above is still a great article
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 11:11 am
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13197 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:53 am to
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Ukraine has always been part of Russia and that Ukrainians are Russian.



Historically Taunton is a part of Minehead already.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:56 am to
Interesting Stripes article about how Ukraine is filtering foreign volunteers:

Stripes Article
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38505 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Are they still being actively farmed?
Someone posted an article yesterday (ITT I think) that said Ukraine is forecasting that they'll be able to sow 70-80% of their pre-war crop numbers this spring fwiw.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13494 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:06 am to
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One applicant ranted unintelligibly about globalism after being asked why he wanted to fight for Ukraine; he was denied.
Rules out the PB posters
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:08 am to
Ya, that was my first thought as well.

Then again they wouldn't be fighting for Ukraine to begin with.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105862 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:11 am to
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Someone posted an article yesterday (ITT I think) that said Ukraine is forecasting that they'll be able to sow 70-80% of their pre-war crop numbers this spring fwiw.


don't know if it was the same article, but they said 40% would be for internal consumption, the rest will be available to export, assuming they have a way to export it. I've been seeing warnings of a global food crisis as a result of this. Ukraine produces 20-25% of the world's wheat.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105862 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:24 am to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:37 am to
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I work with the French military regularly. They’re good. They were the only country that could operate in and over Libya without US support during the Libyan civil war and their intervention in Mali back in 2013 was impressive by any standard. Look that one up if you get the chance. Unfortunately it’s spiraled into France’s version of Iraq/Afghanistan now.


France barely spends the required 2% on defense and that includes the money spent on its deployment in Mali. So Mali is going to be an open wound that drains away France's military resources and prevents them from contributing their share to collective defense of NATO. Losing France would hurt because they are a permanent member of the UNSC and a nuclear weapons state. However, it won't be that big of a loss especially if Sweden and Finland join NATO. France has 222 active MBTs. France has 95 4th generation fighters. Finland has 200 Leopard2s and Sweden has 122 Leopard2s. Sweden has 71 4th generation fighters, and Finland has 55 4th generation fighters in its Air Force right now and has ordered 64 F35s. So if France left NATO and Sweden and Finland joined NATO; NATO would add 110 modern MBTs and 31 4th generation fighters. Plus those MBTs and fighters are closer to NATO's biggest threat than France's are. Sweden and Finland joining NATO would offset the loss of France.

However, LePen is not going to win so it's irrelevant.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22598 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:44 am to
That reads more like an issue with discipline and not necessarily an overall systemic decision to commit war crimes… either way it’s inexcusable. The fact russian leadership can’t control local units from committing atrocities is sad but expected I guess.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:53 am to
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Railway bridge in Shebekinsky District, Belgorod Oblast, has been heavily damaged by what looks like a saboteur attack.

The bridge is located at 50.388086,36.831113, about 6.5 km away from the Ukrainian Border.




1. That will cause a temporary slowdown in Russian supplies to its northern Donbas pincher.

2. They should have used more explosives. That should not take Russia too long to fix.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4701 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:56 am to
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They should have used more explosives. That should not take Russia too long to fix.


I wonder if they didn’t on purpose as now Russia has to dismantle and rebuild as opposed to having to just rebuild. Might take longer?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 12:00 pm to
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There was another thread where people were maintaining Ukraine has always been part of Russia and that Ukrainians are Russian.

Seems they've been listening to Uncle Vlad.



Remember when the people in that thread were arguing that there were millions of Ukrainians who would welcome Russia with open arms, and the Ukrainians who did not just had not realized that they were Russians who did not know they were Russians because of western propaganda?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 12:02 pm to
I'd love to take every one of them to Ukraine and have them tell the locals they're actually Russian.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24472 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Ukraine produces 20-25% of the world's wheat.

We have a lot of untilled land in the US. I'm not sure how we get it into cultivation but we should.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 12:05 pm to
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We have a lot of untilled land in the US. I'm not sure how we get it into cultivation but we should.


That's not the issue. The issue is the government paying farmers to farm corn for ethanol, not food production.

We're literally using taxpayer dollars to incentivize farmers to grow less food.
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