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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:51 am to
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Invading a sovereign country and indiscriminately shelling cities that results in thousands of civilian injuries and/or deaths are war crimes but are felony war crimes.
Rich as frick coming from an American.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:53 am to
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hat is big If true. Russia needed to completely capture Irpin to get their artillery within range of the government parts of Kyiv.


Irpin mayor says it's true, but still not confirmed

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The mayor of Irpin says Ukrainian troops have retaken the Kyiv suburb from Russian forces.

“We have good news today – Irpin has been liberated,” Mayor Oleksandr Markushyn says on Telegram, according to Reuters.

There is no independent confirmation of the claim.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:00 am to
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Invading a sovereign country and indiscriminately shelling cities that results in thousands of civilian injuries and/or deaths are war crimes but are felony war crimes.
Rich as frick coming from an American.


Well GWB and Dick Cheney have not traveled outside of the USA since leaving office in 01/2009 because of concerns about being arrested for war crimes.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3951 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:08 am to
As dumb as the Iraq war was we weren’t shelling residential neighborhoods. False equivalency is false
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:10 am to
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Well GWB and Dick Cheney have not traveled outside of the USA since leaving office in 01/2009 because of concerns about being arrested for war crimes.


If the international community wanted to try them in absentia in The Hague, then they would have. The truth is that if you're powerful enough, you don't have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:13 am to
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As dumb as the Iraq war was we weren’t shelling residential neighborhoods. False equivalency is false


What?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6794 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:21 am to
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As dumb as the Iraq war was we weren’t shelling residential neighborhoods. False equivalency is false


https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29923 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:22 am to
Those kids were trained by American forces. Trigger fingers on unlock position.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:28 am to
The Chechens are definitely throwing a hell of a lot of business at Zenitco. Hell, Zenitco may be the official sponsor of Chechnya.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:57 am to
We're talking about indiscriminate shelling of residential areas and/or shooting POWs in the legs and you post a case of mistaken identity from an attack helicopter?
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:58 am to
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We're talking about indiscriminate shelling of residential areas and/or shooting POWs in the legs and you post a case of mistaken identity from an attack helicopter?



Some people are so hell bent on "gotcha" moments that they don't think about things logically
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32866 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:02 am to
WSJ: Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Suspected Poisoning

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Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month, people familiar with the matter said.

Following the meeting in the Ukrainian capital, Mr. Abramovich, who has shuttled between Moscow, Lviv and other negotiating venues, as well as at least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that included red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands, the people said.

They blamed the suspected attack on hard-liners in Moscow who they said wanted to sabotage talks to end the war. A person close to Mr. Abramovich said it wasn’t clear who had targeted the group.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:04 am to
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We're talking about indiscriminate shelling of residential areas and/or shooting POWs in the legs and you post a case of mistaken identity from an attack helicopter?


Are you suggesting that the US didn't commit war crimes in Iraq or Afghanistan?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24391 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:07 am to
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Are you suggesting that the US didn't commit war crimes in Iraq or Afghanistan?

No.

Quite a leap again.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:08 am to
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No.

So what are you complaining about?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:08 am to
Russia is dying out

Just saw this posted on Twitter, its a pretty interesting read about how drastic the population has changed in Russia
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24391 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:09 am to
It's pretty obvious if you go back and read my post...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:09 am to
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Are you suggesting that the US didn't commit war crimes in Iraq or Afghanistan?



No, he's suggesting there's a difference when civilians are killed due to collateral damage or faulty intel versus purposefully targeting civilians.

Unless you're claiming the US purposefully targeted civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:11 am to
The Russians have a robust abortion culture. 1 in 3 women between 15 and 44 have had at least one.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:17 am to
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No, he's suggesting there's a difference when civilians are killed due to collateral damage or faulty intel versus purposefully targeting civilians.

Unless you're claiming the US purposefully targeted civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I would damn near guarantee that happened over the course of 20 years.

I would also say that it's highly likely that the Ukrainians are using these residential areas as operational areas either intentionally or just as a byproduct of where the Russians are moving. I don't know why y'all act as if that's nowhere in the realm of possibilities. They're likely acting just like insurgent groups in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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