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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:06 am to
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Russia was also backing some far left groups in that time period.


Certainly and the CCP does too.

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It's just that their efforts found particularly fertile ground on the right.


I think for the reasons I mentioned.

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Russia didn't have any ideological agenda except to sow dissension.


Yes.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:07 am to
Russia fricked with our election because of the sanctions we put on them for invading Crimea and the Donbas.

This is all part of the same story and you can LARP your version of it with the Q-baws or try to make sense of it with the rest of us.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24386 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:10 am to
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From the Kyiv Independent twitter

It's very possible another general was killed, but people will want to get confirmation on anything that comes from the Kyiv Independent. They're approaching the same level as RT, but for Ukraine. Probably not quite as bad, but I've personally seen several things they've put out over the past month that's been debunked.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:13 am to
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Russia fricked with our election because of the sanctions we put on them for invading Crimea and the Donbas.

Yeah, those couple thousands they spent in facebook ads really turned the tide.
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This is all part of the same story and you can LARP your version of it with the Q-baws or try to make sense of it with the rest of us.


You wouldn't know the truth if it fell in your lap. You spent 6 years believing an outright lie because you still don't want to accept the fact that your candidate lost. Since then it's morphed into a religion for you loons (absolute same level a Q).

I just find it hilariously ironic that you support the actions of the federal government over the last 6 years, including draconian covid restrictions, then have the audacity to pretend like you're some sort of democracy advocate.

Don't go changin', doc
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
14004 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:19 am to
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people who incessantly scream that they hate "MSM", yet they've essentially traded "MSM" for another group of media that wants to manipulate them.
Putting my Poli Sci degree to work... I think that's why it's important to get news from a variety of sources. I think it provides a much more complete picture and allows people to form their own conclusions from what has been presented. Personally that means FNC NEWS through Bret Baier, ABC nightly news (DVR), NBC local news, and sometimes I'll throw on CNN until they put one of their fake conservatives on to bash the party.

I think when normal people complain about the MSM they really mean LEGACY media (CBS/ABC/NBC) which have increasingly moved left of where the center of our country stands. CNN came along over a decade before FNC/MSNBC making them legacy media on cable...they took a pretty hard turn left with the "OMB" attitude. (I had never seen a WH reporter release a book glorifying himself as they were using press conferences to raise their profile. *cough* Jim Acosta *cough*)

The reason why you hear Republicans complain about it is because those legacy outlets are all that's available for low income people who can't afford anything above basic cable (and some can't even afford that.) I think the term "low IQ voter" is sometimes used for those people. So yes, there are nutcases who use MSM to describe any channel that does not agree with their extreme views but there is a legitimate argument about the LEGACY media's move away from nearly unbiased reporting.

And now back to our daily discussion about Ukraine bashing in Russia's nose...
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:23 am to
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Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46574 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:27 am to
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That's right. Q discourse is propaganda that's crowd-sourced by people who are fundamentally critics of democracy and think authoritarianism is the answer to our problems.



They're basically ideological buddies of the progressive left, they just don't realize it.
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
14004 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:28 am to
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Eritrea
WTF is this place? Never heard of them before and most of my college classes for my major were Poli Sci, history, and geography. I'd be shocked if a Russian puppet state or the teletubby in NK voted to abstain much less vote for it.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105571 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:28 am to
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It's very possible another general was killed, but people will want to get confirmation on anything that comes from the Kyiv Independent. They're approaching the same level as RT, but for Ukraine. Probably not quite as bad, but I've personally seen several things they've put out over the past month that's been debunked.


Every rumor of a general officer casualty has so far proven to be true though
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105571 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:31 am to
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WTF is this place? Never heard of them before and most of my college classes for my major were Poli Sci, history, and geography. I'd be shocked if a Russian puppet state or the teletubby in NK voted to abstain much less vote for it.





Used to be part of Ethiopia
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24870 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:31 am to
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WTF is this place?

Small country next to Djibouti. I’m sure you’ve heard of that place

Countries have kinds of reasons for abstaining votes. Not always straightforward
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:33 am to
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Eritrea
WTF is this place?


A place you don't ever want to visit. About on par with North Korea in terms of how they treat their population.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105571 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:34 am to
The horseshoe political science model is real.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
75483 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:38 am to
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Small country next to Djibouti.
Tectonic hot zone.

There they often shake Djibouti.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24386 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:44 am to
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Every rumor of a general officer casualty has so far proven to be true though

Right. Just warning about that publication in general. Not this specific event.
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Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38428 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:50 am to
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I haven’t watched since 2018 when they kicked out the editing and cinematography awards from the broadcast.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22598 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:52 am to
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They're basically ideological buddies of the progressive left, they just don't realize it.


Politics is circular… the further you move left or right the closer you get to each other.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:12 pm to
The first 100 or so Switchblade loitering drone munitions have arrived to Ukrainian forward units.

Has an anti personnel and anti armor warhead.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:22 pm to
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The first 100 or so Switchblade loitering drone munitions have arrived to Ukrainian forward units.

Has an anti personnel and anti armor warhead.


These are going to be interesting to watch
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:24 pm to
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These are going to be interesting to watch



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