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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:58 am to
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I’m beginning to think Q started as a Russian campaign to destabilize US politics and soften the right’s stance on Russia, with Russia having just enough good intel on the US to sprinkle truth in amongst the obvious BS. The overlap between pro-Putin and pro-Q is quite impressive.






Thousands upon thousands of troll accounts and bots were deleted from Twitter and FB with direct ties to Russia. They been stoking that flame for years. People just be dumb and think bread crumbs lead to a big juicy steak. But it's more like bruh it's bread crumbs. Spend about 30 minutes a go to the store and get a steak. Stop wandering around like a homeless person hoping to get lucky.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:58 am to
Solomon Islands “leaking” this potential deal may be a way of shaking out a better deal from Australia.

China wants to rival the US in having a blue ocean Navy and global influence, but for now they don’t have any friendly ports to pull into and their crews don’t have experience being away from home for weeks at a time (which would be a skill needed to blockade Taiwan).
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:08 am to
Only a tiny fraction of Q discourse is Russian. It comes from chan culture which is a transnational platform born of resisting the commercialization/marketization of the internet and trading in trolling and disinfo, but useful as propaganda when migrated off the chans through large social media platforms and from there on to the Breitbarts and Gateway Pundits and making it up to FoxNews. That said, Q discourse is pushed by Russia, but it's really a wider info ecosystem problem.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:12 am to
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I’m beginning to think Q started as a Russian campaign to destabilize US politics and soften the right’s stance on Russia, with Russia having just enough good intel on the US to sprinkle truth in amongst the obvious BS. The overlap between pro-Putin and pro-Q is quite impressive.


Maybe or maybe it was some larpers on the chans who were able to turn a profit off it. Im sure russia and others did what they could to spread it around the net though, since it was useful.

I think the Q and Pro-Putin overlap is more the people who would be taken in hard by the Q stuff are generally very socially conservative and so is Putin. On some level, they want a strong man like Putin in charge that would enforce the social order they want. They all probably have a boner for Orban in Hungary too, who's a Putin lite in this regard.

Thrown in they also reflexively take the other side of whatever story is in the press and viola!

Its a minority on the right, just overrepresented on far right message boards like the PT.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99107 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:17 am to
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Only a tiny fraction of Q discourse is Russian. It comes from chan culture which is a transnational platform born of resisting the commercialization/marketization of the internet and trading in trolling and disinfo, but useful as propaganda when migrated off the chans through large social media platforms and from there on to the Breitbarts and Gateway Pundits and making it up to FoxNews. That said, Q discourse is pushed by Russia, but it's really a wider info ecosystem problem.



From the #1 pusher of the Steele Dossier
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:19 am to
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abstained. The UN General Assembly has adopted a nonbinding resolution demanding the protection of civilians and civilian infrastructure in Ukraine and an immediate halt to the war. The resolution, approved on March 24 at UN headquarters in New York, was favored by 140 countries in the 193-member assembly. Four countries -- Syria, Belarus, North Korea, and Eritrea -- joined Russia in voting against, while 38 countries abstained. The resolution "demands an immediate cessation of the hostilities by the Russian Federation against Ukraine, in particular of any attacks against civilians and civilian objects." It also demands the protection of civilians, medical personnel, aid workers, and journalists. UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has blasted Russia's "absurd war," which has killed thousands of people, destroyed countless homes, buildings, and infrastructure, and created millions of refugees. General Assembly resolutions are nonbinding, but they carry political weight.
LINK

Once again the UN proves it’s as powerless as the League of Nations was.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54856 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:20 am to
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Hold on werent you crying about the [OT] yet here you are ...
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:20 am to
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On some level, they want a strong man like Putin in charge that would enforce the social order they want. They all probably have a boner for Orban in Hungary too, who's a Putin lite in this regard.


That's right. Q discourse is propaganda that's crowd-sourced by people who are fundamentally critics of democracy and think authoritarianism is the answer to our problems.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 10:21 am
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5125 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:21 am to
So, an opposing point of view??
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:23 am to
Authoritarianism opposes democracy, yes.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:23 am to
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Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:25 am to
All it takes is for a couple of people to imbed and become influencers for stuff to spread like wildfire. I think it was the Swallwell guy in the house that had a Russian plant running his social media. Absurd the lack of due diligence.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 10:26 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42835 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:28 am to
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It amazes me that the people so obsessed with psy ops are the people most likely to be taken in by a psy op. They're similar to the people who incessantly scream that they hate "MSM", yet they've essentially traded "MSM" for another group of media that wants to manipulate them. They cannot see that, though. Their chosen "side" is right and the other "side" is wrong. That is the foundation of everything they believe.

The human mind and psyche are fragile, fragile things.


People believe what they want to believe.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2886 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:43 am to
The drama center... to help discount the claims of a "false flag" event
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34972 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:45 am to
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You retards believe RT.


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:46 am to
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Authoritarianism opposes democracy, yes.

Doc, you've spent the last 6 years embracing every authoritarian principle in the name of "democracy" so your opinion on this is beyond irrelevant.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:57 am to


What authoritarian principle (and please link!)
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105571 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:59 am to
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 think the Q and Pro-Putin overlap is more the people who would be taken in hard by the Q stuff are generally very socially conservative and so is Putin. On some level, they want a strong man like Putin in charge that would enforce the social order they want. They all probably have a boner for Orban in Hungary too, who's a Putin lite in this regard.


Russia was also backing some far left groups in that time period. It's just that their efforts found particularly fertile ground on the right. Russia didn't have any ideological agenda except to sow dissension.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139096 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:00 am to
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What authoritarian principle (and please link!)

Oh, I don't know. Using the federal government to go on massive fishing expeditions for 5 years to try to incarcerate a president and his entire family based on a complete fabrication by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

You still believe Russiagate as it was told on day one for Christ's sake
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:02 am to
And undermine American faith in democracy. Weak democracy here helps Putin at home where their ersatz democracy both imitates the west and treats it as a joke.
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