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White House Cuts Ukraine Off US Military Intelligence Streams – 5 Things To Know

The really nasty part is that the American decision disabled weapon systems bought by European taxpayers for Ukraine to defend itself, more than anything else.

by Stefan Korshak | Mar. 6, 2025, 4:59 pm

The Trump order shut down at least one brutally effective US-made munitions in Ukrainian hands

At least one US-made battlefield strike weapon Ukraine has operated to great effect, and that Russia has struggled to defend against may no longer work because of the intelligence cut off.

Major Western media citing Pentagon sources have reported that the US shut-down of Ukrainian access to strategic intelligence feeds made US precision-guided weapons designed to use that data unable to hit targets. The munitions are ATACMS artillery.

ATACMS missiles provided by the US to Ukraine are not America’s latest model, but older versions with a reported maximum range of 300 kilometers (186 miles). The missiles use US military crypto key-protected GPS data for navigation and flight to target. The Trump order banned Ukrainian access to that crypto key GPS data.

Aside from ATACMS, a second precision-guided munition, called the M30/31 rocket, may also have been rendered less effective by the US intelligence cut off. A tactical weapon with a shorter range than ATACMS, the M30/31 rocket according to sources does not adjust its course en route to the target and does not need GPS data to make the flight.

However, for the rocket to strike accurately, the grid location of the target and the launch system must be extremely precise, and the best battlefield GPS location-determination system is widely acknowledged to be US military GPS data, to which the US has blocked Ukrainian access.

It’s not clear if the M30/31 rocket might be fired accurately enough for many targets when using non-US GPS data. Coordinate data accuracy would be highly dependent on various factors, including satellite photograph quality and corresponding datum alignment, use of grids normally used by GPS-based systems (GPS uses the WGS84 coordinate grid) and accurate conversion of source coordinates to that used by the weapon.

Critical European – not American – military assistance to Ukraine may have been turned into junk also

The Trump decision to switch off intelligence feeds to Ukraine turned 25 Europe-supplied launch systems bought by European taxpayers for about $60 million to support Ukraine’s defense against Russia into useless scrap metal.

Further, it is somewhere between possible and probable that the Trump decision to turn off intelligence feeds to Ukraine turned key cruise missiles developed by Britain, France, and Germany and used with devastating effect by Ukraine’s military into far less useful dumb munitions unable to hit anything with the accuracy weaponeering planners need.

According to open sources, the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) operates two launchers capable of firing M72 artillery M30/31 artillery projectiles and ATACMS missiles: 40-43 HIMARS M142 wheeled launchers and 25 M270 tracked launchers.

The M142 HIMARS is the lighter system capable of firing eight artillery projectiles or one (bigger) missile in a salvo. According to the arms supply tracking group Oryx, the US has transferred 40 HIMARS systems to Ukraine, and Germany has sent Ukraine three systems.

The M270 is the heavier system capable of firing sixteen artillery projectiles or two ATACMS missiles in a salvo. According to the arms supply tracking group Oryx, the UK sent Ukraine 11 M270 systems, Germany sent 5, Italy sent 2, and France sent 4. None were provided by the US. Since they fire only made-in-USA M30/31 artillery projectiles and ATACMS, those systems sent by European states to Ukraine to defend itself are no longer capable of what was promised.
The US move emasculated a deadly missile developed and paid for by Europe and used by Ukraine

The most advanced Western-delivered long-range strike weapon in Ukraine’s hands is a cruise missile called SCALP by France and Storm Shadow by Britain. These missiles, which have a reported range of 250 kilometers (155 miles), high-precision guidance, and warheads designed to break into bunkers and sink ships, were a key component in Ukraine’s defeat of Russia’s Black Sea fleet formerly based in Crimea.

Most analysts estimate the total number of SCALP/Storm Shadows delivered to Ukraine at 100-200 missiles. Germany has not provided Ukraine its version of the missile, called the Taurus, but leaders of Germany’s incoming CDU government have said that once in power, they want to transfer Taurus missiles to Ukraine.

No matter the European manufacturer, this missile by design uses encrypted US military GPS data for navigation. The Trump order cut Ukraine off from that data feed, theoretically rendering the cruise missiles useless.

It’s not clear if or how well the SCALP/Storm Shadow/Taurus might function using non-crypto key non-US GPS data. Ukrainian engineers have repeatedly been skillful and innovative in filling tech gaps in weapons systems; a key piece of Ukrainian air defenses is Soviet-era anti-aircraft systems modified to launch NATO-standard anti-aircraft missiles. However, even these were an alternate source of navigation data to be found and implemented, at minimum, that would not be how the cruise missile was designed to be used.

Estimates of the total number of Scalp/Storm Shadow missiles delivered to Ukraine usually are around 100 missiles at $1 million each. Until the US intelligence-sharing ban is reversed or Ukrainian engineers develop a workaround, whatever missiles the Ukrainians have left in stock won’t meet the required performance, and thus, additional deliveries would be almost pointless.

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Why wouldn't the US approve Turkish troops? Russia might be hesitant since they are in Nato. Turkey has also provided aid to Ukraine.There is no way in hell Russia will approve Brits or the French. It will probably be ran through the UN. Could end up being countries like India,, Brazil, S. Africa maybe?

1) Russia has already said no NATO presence...

2) Trump should have already won the Nobel Peace Prize for the Abram Accords.

Something we already knew...Europe doesn't have a Army

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2) Trump should have already won the Nobel Peace Prize for the Abram Accords.

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He should've won for an accord you can't even be bothered to correctly spell? A peace agreement between 2 non neighbors, who have never been militarily at odds with one another is a meh as it gets.

Look I get it, I’m pro Ukraine and wish Russia and Putin would just frick off as they are just thugs and thieves. You have to start to look at reality though. 3 years of the worst war this planet has seen since WWII has worn both sides down badly. Unfortunately Russia has several times as many bodies to send into meat wave assaults than the Ukrainians do to defend their ground. Even sending a large influx of weapons still won’t give Ukraine what it needs to push Russia out of Ukraine. Have you forgotten those defense lines Russia made for Ukraine’s counteroffensive in 2023? They are still there but now there are more of them up and down the line. The number of Ukrainian lives it would take, even if they could push Russia out, would be horrific. They had a chance but that chance has passed them by thanks to slow Joe Biden and his delivery of weapons for Ukraine at a snails pace when there should have been C-17 and C-5 transport aircraft nonstop landing in Poland and Romania in early 2022 full of munitions of all types. The rail lines to the Ukrainian border should have been filled with hundreds of Bradleys and MRAPS as well as M1A1 tanks, M113 APCs and Patriot batteries. That didn’t happen. If they didn’t have the Javelins that Trump sent who knows what happens when the Russians first pushed on Kyiv. Thankfully they had them and put them to great use and thankfully Russians, including their officers, are fricking idiots and thought they could just drive a 20 mile long convoy of tanks and armored vehicles single file, nose to nose and nothing bad would happen. We now know the Ukrainians smartly took out the front and rear of that convoy with Javelins and then destroyed the middle with artillery and even Molotov cocktails. Ukraine doesn’t have the strength to push Russia out and Russia doesn’t have the ability to take all of Ukraine like they wanted to so diplomacy is the only solution. We can’t drain its military stocks dry when we have to keep one eye on China 24/7. We need to be cranking up production and strengthening our own forces but that won’t be possible until this war comes to an end. It’s time. It’s past time. The fact that Biden didn’t even TRY. Didn’t even attempt to speak with the Russians for 3 years of terrible war is nothing short of dereliction of duty. That’s his job but he was too busy slurping jello and watching Murder She Wrote and Matlock.

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