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Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:57 am to Lima Whiskey
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Jews dominated the slave trade
Lol, and your lot was willing participants. That 'muh Jews' took part isn't the defense you seem to think it is.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:58 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:00 am to LSUPilot07
I’d argue that Korea was worse so was Vietnam, but it was much longer.
And I agree, Ukraine isn’t going to push Russia out; however, they aren’t going to surrender. They are going to fight to keep their sovereignty.
And I agree, Ukraine isn’t going to push Russia out; however, they aren’t going to surrender. They are going to fight to keep their sovereignty.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:00 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:04 am to crazy4lsu
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The problem now is that we don't know what the line is between nuclear blackmail and the actual point where Russia will use nuclear weapons. If they didn't use it to actually protect a piece of their own sovereign territory, and didn't use it the several other times they threatened it, then what is the line where they will use it?
"If they didn't use it to actually protect a piece of their own sovereign territory..."
This is the absolute biggest thing...
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:08 am to doubleb
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Trump is doing way more to destabilize the world order Reagan orchestrated than a few hundred missiles hitting industrial sites deep inside Russia.
"Reagan?" He was 35 years late to orchestrate that...
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:12 am to VolSquatch
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It was essentially saying that the strikes inside Russia were FAR more politically important than practically in terms of helping Ukraine's war effort
Apparently politics are important in war...
Having Russians see and video and share drones zooming over their heads to blow up things in their areas reminds them that war is not some far-off thing that doesn't affect them... that they are vulnerable and that there are consequences for their leader's actions. Ukrainians are not targeting Russian civilians... but the message gets through all the same.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:29 am to cypher
anti-Zelenskyy psyop campaign update...
Kellogg Blames Zelensky for Trump Debacle
The US Ukraine-Russia envoy said the Ukrainian president was “forewarned” of the proceedings in the White House and it was his fault that the meeting went sideways.
by Kyiv Post | Mar. 6, 2025, 5:50 pm
Washington’s Ukraine-Russia Envoy Keith Kellogg said Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was to blame for the heated meeting between him and US President Donald Trump on Feb. 28.
“We talked with President Zelensky before that meeting, there were 13 US senators… we said, okay, this is like stage managing. This is what you want to say. It’s basically going to [go like that:] come in, we have a precious metals deal, you’re going to sign the deal, you’re going to have lunch, have a press conference, exit, stage right, and you’re good to go,” he said.
Kellogg also said the meeting erupted into a “combative conference” because Zelensky “[tried] to challenge the President of the United States in the Oval Office.”
“And I think what happened is they said – ‘Wait a second, this is not what we thought this was going to be. You don’t negotiate peace discussions in public. You don’t try to challenge the President of the United States in the Oval Office,’” Kellogg said.
On weapon, intelligence suspension
Kellogg also commented on the recent suspension of US military aid and intelligence sharing, saying he believed it was a move to pressure Kyiv into negotiating.
“I believe the push is to get them to engage in diplomatic activities … [to get] for lack of a better their term sheet, to get this to the table and say, this is an approach to going forward,” Kellogg said.
Kellogg said the suspension shows that Washington is “serious” about forcing a so-called peace deal.
“They have an ability with the assets they’ve got to continue to prosecute the fight, to do it, but… let’s be obviously, let’s be clear about it… If you take away support like that, of course, it’s important, we know that. But that’s one of the reasons why it was done,” he said.
The Kyiv Post
Kellogg Blames Zelensky for Trump Debacle
The US Ukraine-Russia envoy said the Ukrainian president was “forewarned” of the proceedings in the White House and it was his fault that the meeting went sideways.
by Kyiv Post | Mar. 6, 2025, 5:50 pm
Washington’s Ukraine-Russia Envoy Keith Kellogg said Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was to blame for the heated meeting between him and US President Donald Trump on Feb. 28.
“We talked with President Zelensky before that meeting, there were 13 US senators… we said, okay, this is like stage managing. This is what you want to say. It’s basically going to [go like that:] come in, we have a precious metals deal, you’re going to sign the deal, you’re going to have lunch, have a press conference, exit, stage right, and you’re good to go,” he said.
Kellogg also said the meeting erupted into a “combative conference” because Zelensky “[tried] to challenge the President of the United States in the Oval Office.”
“And I think what happened is they said – ‘Wait a second, this is not what we thought this was going to be. You don’t negotiate peace discussions in public. You don’t try to challenge the President of the United States in the Oval Office,’” Kellogg said.
On weapon, intelligence suspension
Kellogg also commented on the recent suspension of US military aid and intelligence sharing, saying he believed it was a move to pressure Kyiv into negotiating.
“I believe the push is to get them to engage in diplomatic activities … [to get] for lack of a better their term sheet, to get this to the table and say, this is an approach to going forward,” Kellogg said.
Kellogg said the suspension shows that Washington is “serious” about forcing a so-called peace deal.
“They have an ability with the assets they’ve got to continue to prosecute the fight, to do it, but… let’s be obviously, let’s be clear about it… If you take away support like that, of course, it’s important, we know that. But that’s one of the reasons why it was done,” he said.
The Kyiv Post
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:34 am to cypher
Bruh, it's not a psyop, it's the truth. Zelensky was fed bullshite by some Europeans and Democrats, then totally fricked himself. He needs Trump's support but hhe wanted to act like a tough guy.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:34 am to John Barron
Everything that Lavrov says...just turn it around and apply it to Russia and you are good.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:35 am to cypher
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:38 am to cypher
I can understand pressuring Ukraine to negotiate, but what I do not understand is that Russia had not had to weigh in and everything you read indicates that Russia isn’t ready.
Z needs to do the mineral deal now and announce he is ready to sit down with the Russians. Then we can see what Putin’s plans really are.
Z needs to do the mineral deal now and announce he is ready to sit down with the Russians. Then we can see what Putin’s plans really are.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:42 am to doubleb
Ukraine natural resources deal not ready as Trump seeks better terms, CBS News reports
by Martin Fornusek and The Kyiv Independent news desk March 5, 2025 10:44 AM
The Kyiv Independent
by Martin Fornusek and The Kyiv Independent news desk March 5, 2025 10:44 AM
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:43 am to cypher
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Kellogg Blames Zelensky for Trump Debacle
Also read that Zelensky had been advised by dems to do what dems do. Zelensky was a little too close to dems even in the pre-election cycle.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:46 am to John Barron
She’s a piece of work, but both she and Poroshenko would probably agree to peace
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:54 am to cypher
Moving the goal line???
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:55 am to Lima Whiskey
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She’s a piece of work, but both she and Poroshenko would probably agree to peace
Neither of them would win.
Can we revisit that your prediction that the war would end at the end of 2023? Let's see some growth from our resident fascist.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:57 am to cypher
Now Zelensky has painted himself in a corner by not just signing that insanely fair minerals deal when he was in D.C. Now Trump is pissed off and is going to squeeze on him because he knows that Europe can’t feed Ukraine alone so now Trump has 100% of the leverage. Whoever advises Zelensky on his staff needs to be fired immediately. We would be almost a week into having a deal already signed and I guarantee Trump would have already been on the phone demanding a sit down with the 3 countries and Europe is they want to sit in the corner and watch.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:58 am to cypher
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The really nasty part is that the American decision disabled weapon systems bought by European taxpayers for Ukraine to defend itself, more than anything else.
Tough titty said the kitty.
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