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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:50 am to SirWinston
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:50 am to SirWinston
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Your guy Jake Sullivan and his bunch tried for three years and fricked everything up. "As Long as it Takes!!!" Trump is working for what is best for the US by not dropping anything more into an unwinnable situation. He doesn't give a damn about Zelensky or this war other than ending it. Which is exactly what he should do
Spot on. Zelensky is finished.
Trump vanquished Biden and now he’s on the verge of getting rid of the leader of Ukraine who allowed Hunter Biden to make millions. The poor deep state impeached Trump over the phone call and now all of them are out of power or about to be.
It’ll be nice seeing our tax dollars not go to a lost cause. Also it’ll be nice not seeing our corrupt political leaders and the MIC not getting kickbacks from Ukraine.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:53 am
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:58 am to cypher
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:08 am to cypher
Europe in its current globalist form is on a path to self implosion by importing millions of muslim migrants. This isn’t the same continent we fought to save 80 years ago. The current generation of leadership needs to be completely reformed with more rightward thinking. The left has destroyed Europe.
Germany looks to be going in the right direction with the increasingly popular AfD.
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This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:13 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:12 am to texag7
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Yeah, we kept the first 500 or so political crap free. Then the political posters slithered in and not enough regulars protested, so Mr Chicken really had to let them stay. Its been ruined since then. Typical Ukraine bro. Wants any differing opinions banned.
Differing opinions are fine. That’s what discussions are for. John Barron spamming the thread with every Russian propaganda X post as soon as it’s posted is different. Also the same 4 or 5 posters having the exact same argument every day for months has gotten stale.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:19 am to WeeWee
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Geez this thread has gone to shite. It’s basically just John Barron’s Russia spamming and three old farts (Lee B, AU86 and doubleb
I apologize. I’ll do better.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:22 am to Lee B
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Yes... and you've had more faith in Trump than I ever did... I was actually shocked at his tirade today. I saw John Bolton saying this is what Trump would do yesterday but even I didn't believe it.
If Trump wants the US out of Europe, he doesn’t need to negotiate with the Russians. It looks bad. It looks like they are dictating terms.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:24 am to Stidham8
Zelenskyyyy had to side with who put him in power to begin with.
It was nothing personal when he barely lifted a finger to defend Trump regarding the phone call hoax.
It's nothing personal now as Trump negotiates the end of the slaughter with Zyyyyy at the kiddie table.
It was nothing personal when he barely lifted a finger to defend Trump regarding the phone call hoax.
It's nothing personal now as Trump negotiates the end of the slaughter with Zyyyyy at the kiddie table.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:31 am to doubleb
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It looks bad. It looks like they are dictating terms.
Exactly. Exactly what I have said for 2 months. They have all of the leverage. Reality on the Ground. Prepare for Ukraine to get raped. They should have taken the Istanbul Deal. I said that you people are in for a rude awakening. Time to wake up and face reality.
Ukraine has lost this war. They have no ability to reverse that. Those are the facts. The loser does not get to dictate terms.
If Ukraine continues to fight, it will only get worse. The ending will not be nice. Better to take your lumps now. It is better than what is coming down the road.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:37 am to doubleb
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Why would he feel the need to promise no NATO for Ukraine, pull US troops out of Europe, and eliminate sanctions on Russia?
1. No Nato. Without this the war doesn't end.
2. Pull US troops out if Europe- Thank God. Its time for the Europeans to defend themselves. I don't care if they have to be forced to. The US cannot afford to be the worlds charity hub anymore. Frick the damn Europeans
3. He wants to normalize relations with Russia. Maybe try to pull them back a little from their alliance with China. Which is very dangerous for the US. If we had to fight both of them, we are screwed.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:45 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:44 am to AU86
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3. He wants to normalize relations with Russia.
But he really has targeted civilians and is a war criminal.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:47 am to aTmTexas Dillo
So was Stalin and look what we did with him. FDR loved him. Uncle Joe.
So was Mao and we normalized relations with him.
Both killed millions. Tortured and imprisoned.
So was Mao and we normalized relations with him.
Both killed millions. Tortured and imprisoned.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:48 am to John Barron
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:49 am to AU86
Well the world knows what Putin has done. The fecklessness of Europeans has immunized Putin to an extent.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:56 am to aTmTexas Dillo
The current globalist European governments have led their nations and people down a.path of destruction. They are weak, corrupt and woke. The people now realize this and that is why you are seeing them being swept away by nationalists.
Their days are numbered.
Europe better wake up.
Their days are numbered.
Europe better wake up.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:04 am to AU86
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1. No Nato. Without this the war doesn't end.
I’m not for letting Ukraine in NATO given the circumstances.
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2. Pull US troops out if Europe- Thank God. Its time for the Europeans to defend themselves. I don't care if they have to be forced to. The US cannot afford to be the worlds charity hub anymore. Frick the damn Europeans
Fine, but what does that have to do with a peace deal? Putin didn’t attack Ukraine to get the US out of Europe. If Trump wants us out, he foecnt have to deal with Russia. He can just pull out. This way it looks like Putin is tunning tge show.
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3. He wants to normalize relations with Russia. Maybe try to pull them back a little from their alliance with China. Which is very dangerous for the US. If we had to fight both of them, we are screwed.
That’s been tied over and over, but what is normal for Russia isn’t normal for us. They have proven they can’t be trusted. Evidencee we of tgst is in Africa, the Middle East, Crimes and Georgia. They do not pksy nice.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:12 am to doubleb
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:13 am to Coeur du Tigre
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The acid test of Trump's association with Putin will be whether or not he agrees to - and implements - sanctions relief for Russia.
Watch the video. If the sanctions are dropped, the kremlin talking points in the embedded video will be the pretext. In any case I expect this narrative to be repeated by the putin bros as soon as they are told that the sanctions were bad for the US and good for russia.
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We landed only on Nato expansion? What about the Nazis and the mosquitos?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:25 am to doubleb
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Fine, but what does that have to do with a peace deal? Putin didn’t attack Ukraine to get the US out of Europe. If Trump wants us out, he foecnt have to deal with Russia. He can just pull out. This way it looks like Putin is tunning tge show.
If you ever listened to what the Russians say they have mentioned a new security structure in Europe. This is part of that. Pulling back US troops. Trump's wants them out anyway. So do I. He doesn't need the Russians to get him to agree to that. That is something he has wanted to do for awhile.
How about we protect our borders for awhile instead of protecting welching countries that don't appreciate it. Maybe if they are forced to, they will finally grow up and abandon their globalist/woke policies and start defending themselves. Reality is hitting them right in their face and they don't like it. I love it.
You, Bagdad Bob Cypher and Lee B are the hard cores that can't accept what is coming. Your hatred for anything Soviet/Russian makes you blind and unable to see reality. You would argue with a damn stop sign when reality js staring you in the face. The other two are hardcore leftists that have ulterior motives.
eta: sorry for leaving out CitizenK as a remaining Ukraine hardcore. He is one also.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:46 am to AU86
It’s pretty obvious Trump and Putin want to control their respective spheres- Trump wants to own Canada and Greenland, Putin wants to own more of Europe.
Sounds pretty globalisty to me
I guess globalism is ok when Rs do it
Sounds pretty globalisty to me
I guess globalism is ok when Rs do it
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