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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:35 am to
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:35 am to
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The melt on this thread will be glorious when Trump ends this pointless conflict that could have been avoided before it even began. Your tears and denial will be glorious.


You are so full of shite.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:37 am to
Zelensky: Any bilateral talks on Ukraine without us are unacceptable

Ukraine will not accept any bilateral peace talks without Ukraine's participation. In addition, it is important for Ukraine to have European partners at the negotiating table.

This was stated by President Volodymyr Zelensky during a working visit to the Khmelnytsky Nuclear Power Plant, commenting on his conversation with US President Donald Trump, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

“I articulate this very clearly to our partners. Any bilateral talks about Ukraine, I'm not talking about other topics, they are free to do so, we will not accept any bilateral talks about Ukraine without us,” Zelensky said.

He emphasized that meetings in the Ukraine-U.S. format should take place first, and only after that, after a plan to stop Putin has been developed, will it be fair to talk to the Russians.

Speaking about his conversation with Trump, Zelensky said it was “a really good almost hour-long conversation,” during which Trump told the Ukrainian president that he believed that “Putin wants peace and wants the war to end.” According to Zelensky, he told Trump that everyone wants to get Putin to end the war fairly for Ukraine, but he doesn't really believe that it is easy to do.

The president also emphasized the importance of European participation in the negotiation process. I believe that there should be Europeans at the negotiating table, because we are part of Europe and will definitely be members of the European Union,” the President noted.

He recalled the substantial support of Ukraine during the war from the European partners. According to him, “today, 80% of the price of war is paid by Ukraine and Europe and 20% is the contribution of the United States of America.”

Ukrinform
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42599 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:37 am to
All of that is true and it is why the Dems are killing the US on the world stage.

You help Ukraine and we can help ourselves and look good all at the same time.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:55 am to
When I was a kid we just had a biased mainstream media. It was easy to see the politics and spin of some of the news.

Now my kid gets to sift through turbo-charged propaganda. Everywhere is lies spin exaggeration and half truths.

I feel bad for people that just believe things now. They base their beliefs and opinions off of ridiculous bullshite. Manipulated to the maximum. It's a shame and a sad future.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:01 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:04 am to
Putin didn't travel to South Africa because as a signatory party to the International Court he would have been arrested.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:05 am to
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That isn't the argument you made. You said he would be arrested if he left the "Axis of Evil".


He hasn't since the International Court called for his arrest.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4309 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:08 am to
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The minerals Trump wants are under dirt controlled by Russia. How is he planning on getting the Russians off of that land?
By simply giving the Ukrainians the weapons they need to get the Russians out. That's the beauty of this situation, the US investors don't have to hire and train a huge mercenary army. It's already there. The Ukrainians have the most experienced and motivated fighting troops in the world right now. All they need are the weapons they are asking for. At no cost to the US investors as they will get Congress to supply everything.

Clearly a win for everyone but Putin.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:19 am to
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By simply giving the Ukrainians the weapons they need to get the Russians out. That's the beauty of this situation, the US investors don't have to hire and train a huge mercenary army. It's already there. The Ukrainians have the most experienced and motivated fighting troops in the world right now. All they need are the weapons they are asking for. At no cost to the US investors as they will get Congress to supply everything.

Clearly a win for everyone but Putin.


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It was just outside Barstow


The drugs have definitely taken hold here. Or maybe just a weird bloodlust.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4309 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:19 am to
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"You need the Europeans to implement this deal; you need the Ukrainians to implement this deal. I mean, that doesn't also look good if somebody agrees on something and everyone else says: "Fine, you have agreed but we will not follow this."

"The Ukrainians will resist and we will support them."
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[Zelensky] recalled the substantial support of Ukraine during the war from the European partners. According to him, “today, 80% of the price of war is paid by Ukraine and Europe and 20% is the contribution of the United States of America.”
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:24 am to
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:28 am to
Zelensky imitating Putin your hero/god
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:34 am to
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He hasn't since the International Court called for his arrest.



And that isn't the point. If you're going to predict he will be arrested, then immediately change your opinion or back down from it when challenged, why even say it to begin with?

He is throwing shite at the wall, as usual.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4309 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:37 am to
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Putin didn't travel to South Africa because as a signatory party to the International Court he would have been arrested.
Being forced to back down on that invitation drove the ANC batshit crazy, especially the left wing. But someone reminded them that the US - African Growth and Opportunity Act was on life support with Pretoria already and was due to expire in 2025, with extension 'possible' for another 15 year term.

Ramaphosa tried to hide but had to make a decision: A.) Putin flying down with bales of cash for the ANC comrades, or B.) lose the entire SA auto manufacturing business with 8,000 well-paying jobs plus half the agricultural export business. Not even the ANC could ignore the ramifications of that.

Well, some of them couldn't. Don't get me started.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:48 am to
I know you War Mongers love some John Bolton so here is some jerk off material for you guys


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Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:57 am to
The lapel pin that DJT is wearing has gone viral and the MSM is melting as predicted

Fake News(week)

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President Donald Trump wearing a miniature cartoon version of himself as a lapel pin has caused a stir online.

Trump has frequently used his name and image as a fundraising tool throughout his political career. The pin could be another example of Trump-branded merchandise available for supporters to purchase.


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Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:58 am to
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Trump has channeled Teddy Roosevelt in his first almost month in office.


Good analogy. Trump wants to build the Ben-Gurion canal to compete with the Suez canal.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:00 pm to
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The Art of The Deal ?


Do you think Trump gives a frick about what the Germans think?
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:02 pm to
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Does he work at the Washington Post now?


Based Jeff Bezos.
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