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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/16/25 at 10:11 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 10:11 am to
Trump advisers draft sanctions plan to pressure Moscow toward peace, Bloomberg reports

by Tim Zadorozhnyy January 16, 2025 5:21 PM

Advisers to U.S. President-elect Donald Trump are developing a comprehensive sanctions strategy aimed at facilitating a diplomatic resolution to the Russia-Ukraine war, Bloomberg reported on Jan. 16, citing anonymous sources familiar with the discussions.

This comes as Russia's fossil fuel industry continues to serve as a primary source of funding for its war against Ukraine.

The Trump team is reportedly weighing two primary approaches. The first set of policy recommendations suggests that, if a resolution to the war appears possible, the administration should focus on good-faith measures to benefit sanctioned Russian oil producers that could help seal a peace deal.

The second option would involve expanding sanctions to exert maximum pressure, increasing leverage over Moscow.

Trump's team is also evaluating sanctions policy options to put pressure on Iran and Venezuela, Bloomberg reported.

The strategy is in its early stages and ultimately depends on what Trump decides to do, the people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg.

The Biden administration and the U.K. recently imposed their most extensive sanctions yet on Russia's oil sector, targeting nearly 200 vessels in the "shadow fleet," key oil companies, and related entities.

These measures, announced by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) on Jan. 10, have already impacted the global oil market, pushing Brent crude prices up by nearly $5 per barrel.

The G7 nations are also considering tightening the existing $60 per barrel price cap on Russian oil, Bloomberg reported on Dec. 19.

Ukraine has disrupted Russia's oil production through targeted drone strikes on key infrastructure. Refineries in Tuapse, Ilyich, and Novoshakhtinsk have reportedly reduced or suspended operations due to the combined effects of sanctions and Ukrainian attacks.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 10:52 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 11:23 am to
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We all know what JB is up to here.


It would be the same as a pro-Ukrainian poster posting every ridiculous claim from david d, Thomas Theiner, Chuck Pfarrer, Igor Sushko, and Trent Telenko. Those guys sometimes post useful and insightful things, but they also post lots of BS, which is why I don't post anything from them and don't promote them -- it's better simply to focus on people who, even if they occasionally get something wrong, so so honestly and without fanciful, imaginative claims.

That is, if you are actually trying to understand the war. If someone's mission here is to try to convince people that the great Russian empire is about to crush pathetic Ukraine, then you promote RWA, Lord Bebo, Ayden, and the other idiots that JB is constantly pushing.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21024 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 11:35 am to
With respect to Rep. Mike Turner's removal as head of the House Intelligence Committee, I honestly don't think that the decision was about Ukraine.

Last year, Turner freaked everyone out with claims that Russia was putting nukes in space. It was an exaggerated claim that ended up severely damaging Turner's credibility.

I think that Trump (and the Speaker too) decided they don't really want an Intel chair who freaks people out with fears that Russia is about to shoot nukes at us from space.

In imeme terms, the House Intel chair isn't supposed to try to be the main character.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:09 pm to
House Speaker Taps Ukraine Aid Critic to Lead Intelligence Panel

By Billy House and Roxana Tiron (BGOV)
January 16, 2025 at 11:18 AM CST

House Speaker Mike Johnson has tapped Rick Crawford, an Arkansas Republican who has opposed Ukraine aid, to replace defense hawk Mike Turner atop the Intelligence Committee, people familiar with the decision said.

The decision, less than a day after Turner’s surprise ouster, gives the gavel to a lawmaker more aligned with President-elect Donald Trump’s America First ideology just days before the inauguration.

Bloomberg
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:15 pm to
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?? UK and France may deploy troops to Ukraine

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron have reportedly begun discussing the deployment of peacekeeping forces to Ukraine, should Kyiv and Moscow reach a peace agreement.

The Telegraph outlines three potential scenarios for deploying peacekeepers in Ukraine:

1?? Buffer Zone Monitoring: British units could establish observation posts along a buffer zone, with fighter jets and attack helicopters conducting patrols. Rapid-response forces would be stationed nearby, with armored units ready to repel potential Russian advances.

2?? Defensive Perimeter Around Kyiv: A Western coalition could form a defensive border around Ukraine's capital, allowing the Ukrainian military to focus on containing Russian forces. However, this scenario is seen as unlikely.

3?? Training and Air Defense Support: British instructors could conduct training in western Ukraine, while Polish air defense systems would ensure their protection. This is currently considered the least controversial option and could serve as a first step toward deploying Western forces.

Both the UK and France are expected to play leading roles in forming a peacekeeping contingent.

Meanwhile, the French foreign minister emphasized that France intends to participate in negotiations over the war in Ukraine, as the conflict directly impacts European security.

LINK
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:29 pm to
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It would be the same as a pro-Ukrainian poster posting every ridiculous claim from david d, Thomas Theiner, Chuck Pfarrer, Igor Sushko, and Trent Telenko


Or making up 'inside information' via phone call from a very real 'friend'
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38224 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:39 pm to
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quote:Hamas leader thanks Russia and other nations for support Hamas leader in Gaza and chief negotiator Khalil al-Hayya expressed gratitude to countries that supported the "Palestinian people in their struggle against Israel." "We deeply appreciate the stance of nations that have supported us in various areas, especially Turkey, South Africa, Algeria, Russia, China, Malaysia, and Indonesia," al-Hayya said, according to Kremlin media citing AL Hadad.


John Barron supports this
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:59 pm to
Russia's Fiber Optic Drones have become a real problem for Ukraine


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:23 pm to
The Globalist magazine "The Economist" has bad news regarding Ukraine mobilization


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Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:27 pm to
Zeihan's view on things at the moment...

Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:20 pm to
Beautiful how their political panel is all white men.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:21 pm to
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My OT Ukrainian Bros... You are desperately needed on the front lines. Who is Volunteering?


They are chicken hawks, especially Coeur De Tigre and GOPe Tiger.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2876 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 4:44 pm to
Why aren't you on the front lines with other fine Christian Russian young men fighting against the globalists?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 5:18 pm to
This thread will go down in history as the definition of cringe on this site

So much fail
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41423 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 5:58 pm to
Ukraine bros assemble! 11th Hour we must fight to save Earth

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:45 pm to
I watch Zeihan's videos but the only thing he actually knows about is demographics. When he gets beyond that he goes off of the rails He has zero understanding about oil, natural gas, pipelines and shipping, just for starters
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17613 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:47 pm to
This will alll be over in 3 days or whenever Trump meets with Putin or when the Ukraine frontline collapses. Give Russia what they want. Putin is a master strategist. The mighty Russian war machine is unstoppable. Ukraine is Nazi. NATO bad. The KGB/FSB are the good guys. I don’t have a Twitter account, John, post embed stuff along those lines.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139724 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:08 pm to
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This will alll be over in 3 days
God willing!
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20239 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:34 pm to
Hopefully this does end soon.

cargo pants keeps sending atacoms, and Putin then bombs the snot out of the energy infrastructure and millions of ukranians freeze their arse off.

Rinse and repeat. What leader of a country would continue to do this when he knows Russia will make the citizens pay the price, only an idiot.

cargo pants has to be a billionaire by this point, so its just ego driven now, sacrificing his own people so he can continue in the spotlight of the EU. They will drop him like a rock when Trump pulls out.

Sadly the peace deal will be very similar to the one the UK and the US nixed a year ago and about half a million lives.
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