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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/20/24 at 1:38 pm to jeffsdad
Posted on 8/20/24 at 1:38 pm to jeffsdad
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I appreciate the help, but Greek is Greek to me.
Let me translate it for you.
2022: Russia is the second best military in the world.
2023:Russia is the second best military in Ukraine.
2024: Russia is the second best military in Russia.
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 1:41 pm to doubleb
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But in my life experiences all I’ve ever seen was the Commies (yes now we have ex Commies) drag on talks, waste time, pksy games and finally make agreements that they largely ignore.
The Russians were doing that long before the commies took over.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:00 pm to Penrod
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The Russians were doing that long before the commies took over.
I’m not that old!!!!!
Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
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The Audubon Bridge is such a beautiful bridge to be in such a useless location.
If memory serves the Gramercy Bridge was built before the approaches were.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:14 pm to doubleb
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Gramercy Bridge
aka The bridge to connect two sugar cane fields. That is what people called it when I moved to Baton Rouge in late 2000 to liquidate a brand new plant for Shell Geismar.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:27 pm to Penrod
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The Russians were doing that long before the commies took over.
They learned well from the Mongols centuries ago. Anyone who has read Russian history should understand that they have never thought like the "West" with graft and corruption endemic for centuries.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:29 pm to CitizenK
Russians strike children's café in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, injuring four children – photos
Tetyana Oliynyk — Tuesday, 20 August 2024, 20:02
Four children have been injured in a Russian attack on a children’s café in the settlement of Malokaterynivka, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, on 20 August.
Source: Ivan Fedorov, Head of Zaporizhzhia Oblast Military Administration
Quote: "Three children have been injured; one of them is in a critical condition. That is the result of a Russian attack on Malokaterynivka in Zaporizhzhia Oblast.
The enemy hit a children’s café."
Update: According to the police in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, four children aged 11, 14, 15 and 17 were injured in the attack, as well as an 18-year-old woman. The projectile (the type is being determined) landed near a retail kiosk at around 17:45.
Quote: "A 15-year-old boy was brought unconscious to the regional clinical hospital; medics performed resuscitation procedures. The other victims are stable."
Updated at 20:55: The Zaporizhzhia Oblast Prosecutor's Office reported that the 15-year-old boy had died during resuscitation.
Ukrainska Pravda
Tetyana Oliynyk — Tuesday, 20 August 2024, 20:02
Four children have been injured in a Russian attack on a children’s café in the settlement of Malokaterynivka, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, on 20 August.
Source: Ivan Fedorov, Head of Zaporizhzhia Oblast Military Administration
Quote: "Three children have been injured; one of them is in a critical condition. That is the result of a Russian attack on Malokaterynivka in Zaporizhzhia Oblast.
The enemy hit a children’s café."
Update: According to the police in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, four children aged 11, 14, 15 and 17 were injured in the attack, as well as an 18-year-old woman. The projectile (the type is being determined) landed near a retail kiosk at around 17:45.
Quote: "A 15-year-old boy was brought unconscious to the regional clinical hospital; medics performed resuscitation procedures. The other victims are stable."
Updated at 20:55: The Zaporizhzhia Oblast Prosecutor's Office reported that the 15-year-old boy had died during resuscitation.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 8/20/24 at 3:56 pm to NC_Tigah
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... but, yes, Lukashenko saying that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine is likely BS
I see. It’s clear this is all you’re really trying to say.
You can do that without feigning ignorance as if you don’t understand the actual point you’re supposedly arguing against. But whatever, carry on.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:14 pm to lostinbr
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
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ussia has deployed a regiment of its Aerospace Forces to defend the Kursk region due to a manpower shortage amid Ukraine's ongoing incursion, according to an independent investigative Russian outlet.
President Vladimir Putin's so-called "space troops" have been tasked to push back Ukraine's forces after Kyiv launched a cross-border raid on August 6 in Kursk, seemingly catching Moscow off guard, Important Stories reported on Sunday.
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Citing a source familiar with the matter, Important Stories said a temporary motorized rifle regiment of Russia's Aerospace Forces has been deployed to Kursk, which borders Ukraine's Sumy region.
The unit, created between May and June, consists of personnel from security and logistics companies, engineers, mechanics, some officers, and servicemen from a Russian spaceport. There are also personnel from special warehouses of the Aerospace Forces and radar stations in Russia's Voronezh region, who were previously in charge of manning Russia's nuclear deterrent.
Of all the stupid things Putin has done, this is one of the stupidest. Maybe Putin can mobiize some Nobel Prize winners next to throw into the meatgriinder.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:54 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 8/20/24 at 7:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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personnel from security and logistics companies, engineers, mechanics, some officers, and servicemen from a Russian spaceport.
Those folks aren’t actually soldiers. They are support personnel. If this is true, it may suggest that Russian commanders have decided to not remove anyone from the existing front lines.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 7:39 pm to TBoy
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Those folks aren’t actually soldiers. They are support personnel. If this is true, it may suggest that Russian commanders have decided to not remove anyone from the existing front lines.
If Mexico invaded Texas and took over 1000 square miles, I’d like to think Biden would send more than the third string to get it back.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 8/20/24 at 7:39 pm to TBoy
Insane how much of today's GOP has now adopted the Obama foreign policy towards Russia. There are certainly still some Republicans who don't want the China/Russia/Iran/North Korea alliance to take over the world, but they are probably now a minority in their own party.
There's definitely a shift going on, but then there are also still plenty of Obama types in the Biden administration -- Jake Sullivan being the most obvious example.
But, as we've noted before, we had liberals in 2012 saying that the US was racist and imperialist and no right to "impose" our belief in freedom on anyone else in the world. We were wicked, and besides, nations such as Cuba and Russia were better because they had free health care for everyone.
Now, we have right-wingers saying that the US is woke and we have no right to "impose" our belief in freedom on anyone else in the world. We are a wicked country because we are woke, and nations such as Russia, China, and Iran are superior because they are anti-LGBT.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. There's definitely a shift going on, but then there are also still plenty of Obama types in the Biden administration -- Jake Sullivan being the most obvious example.
But, as we've noted before, we had liberals in 2012 saying that the US was racist and imperialist and no right to "impose" our belief in freedom on anyone else in the world. We were wicked, and besides, nations such as Cuba and Russia were better because they had free health care for everyone.
Now, we have right-wingers saying that the US is woke and we have no right to "impose" our belief in freedom on anyone else in the world. We are a wicked country because we are woke, and nations such as Russia, China, and Iran are superior because they are anti-LGBT.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:00 pm to GOP_Tiger
Idiots are easy to manipulate. Left and right are both full of them.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:08 pm to TBoy
ISW Update Aug 20th
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian forces continued attacking throughout the Ukrainian salient in Kursk Oblast on August 20 and recently made additional advances.
Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Colonel General Oleksandr Syrskyi displayed a map depicting the situation in Kursk Oblast on August 20, and ISW will use the boundaries of this map to update its assessment of maximalist claimed limits of Ukrainian advances in Kursk Oblast, consistent with ISW's mapping methodology for the Ukrainian incursion thus far.
Russian authorities have reportedly re-deployed Russian units from the Chasiv Yar direction to Kursk Oblast amid efforts to address the ongoing Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast with Russian forces previously in the area and re-deployments from lower priority sectors of the frontline in Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin visited the site of the 2004 Beslan school siege on August 20, likely in an effort to link the Russian "counterterrorism" response to the Ukrainian operation in Kursk Oblast to a "successful" Russian counterterrorism operation in the early 2000s.
Russian forces recently advanced near Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and Donetsk City.
Russian federal subjects (regions) continue to increase monetary incentives for signing Russian military contracts in order to bolster Russia's force generation efforts.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:06 pm to Camp Randall
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Idiots are easy to manipulate. Left and right are both full of them.
This is true. To me, the common thread is naïveté. Obama and his crew seemed to embrace this utopian delusion that if we gave lip service to democratic ideals, we would automatically have widespread support around the world. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work like that.
I don’t really understand the right wing perspective at this time. It certainly isn’t rooted in the same kind of utopian delusion that grips the left from time to time. It seems more of a nihilism, like they really don’t want the US to succeed in promoting its interests globally, and they don’t think it matters. Nihilism is naïve in a different way.
Fortunately, there appears to be a significant number of people on both sides who understand that containing Russia at this time is critical for the stability of the western world.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:21 pm to TBoy
I will never doubt anyone's high estimation of the number of idiots in any part of the population.
But as for Obama... the defining thing of that period was EVERYBODY being angry at and tired of the Neo-Conservative Foreign Policy adventures of George W. Bush's administration. There was no clear Foreign Policy, because it was mostly just not trying to ignite a domestic political powderkeg while repairing international relationships that had been a bit strained. So anything that was done was done in secret. If Obama had publically thrown the full might of the US military behind Ukraine when Putin invaded Crimea you tell me what the reaction here would've been? As it was, you strangely have people on the right, usually the side that advocates proactive foreign policy, claiming Obama was behind the "Arab Spring (he wasn't... it was a giant regional food riot triggered by the global economic downturn that ignited long simmering resistance to dictators)."
But I forget this is not a place for nuance...
But as for Obama... the defining thing of that period was EVERYBODY being angry at and tired of the Neo-Conservative Foreign Policy adventures of George W. Bush's administration. There was no clear Foreign Policy, because it was mostly just not trying to ignite a domestic political powderkeg while repairing international relationships that had been a bit strained. So anything that was done was done in secret. If Obama had publically thrown the full might of the US military behind Ukraine when Putin invaded Crimea you tell me what the reaction here would've been? As it was, you strangely have people on the right, usually the side that advocates proactive foreign policy, claiming Obama was behind the "Arab Spring (he wasn't... it was a giant regional food riot triggered by the global economic downturn that ignited long simmering resistance to dictators)."
But I forget this is not a place for nuance...
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:42 pm to StormyMcMan
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Russian authorities have reportedly re-deployed Russian units from the Chasiv Yar direction to Kursk Oblast amid efforts to address the ongoing Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast with Russian forces previously in the area and re-deployments from lower priority sectors of the frontline in Ukraine.
This seems to be part of the point of the counter invasion. With Ukraine behind the Russian wall of fixed defenses, I wonder if they can roll up the Russian line?
Posted on 8/21/24 at 3:10 am to Auburn1968
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