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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/24/24 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 1:45 pm to
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n my gut this feels like giving Hitler a time out right before he attacks Stalingrad..


FIFY
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 1:52 pm to
$275 million package under Presidential Drawdown Authority officially announced:

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4688 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Any insight into who Putin is trying to replace them with? Competent, or apparatchiks?

What does he think he gains?
Short answer - Putin's background has always given him a heightened sense of paranoia and now that the situation is Russia is spiraling downward out of his control, he is going to the mattresses. Military replacements will be very loyal and very weak.

Long version - As GOP pointed out in his 10-point post above, the war is now going very badly for Putin and he feels the pressure acutely. Coming from a career in the KGB and Russian criminal syndicates, he is much closer to paranoia than we would normally expect. He knows first hand how cheap life is in his world.

In the past, Putin chose higher leadership in both the government and military according to the candidate's loyalty to Putin. If they were a bit incompetent, that was even better as this would present someone who would be less inclined to get ideas. But now, with the situation in Russia rapidly approaching a crash landing, Putin is doubling down on loyalty and incompetence. The recent change of Belousov for Shoigu is the proof of this.

The military is the most powerful organization in Russia and Putin is desperate not only to control it but to neuter it. The arrest of seven generals associated with previous military leadership in the last ten days - and certainly more to come - underlines this as well. Finally, the fact that the FSB is doing all the dirty work shows the choice Putin has made.

The army may roll over and go quietly as they did under Stalin and with Prigodzin. But then again, they may not. If you are keeping score, the question of how many armored divisions the FSB has must be part of the calculation.

The critical point will be when the FSB tries to arrest a general like Surovikin or Viktor Panchenkov, head of the Academy of the Ministry of Emergency Situations. Panchenkov famously refused to salute Putin at the annual Victory Day parade. If the FSB tries to take down either of these two, they will need those divisions. But after the arrests of last week, every officer in the military should be ready for them.

And yeah, what about the war in Ukraine? Right now, all the Russians want is to get out while they still can.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5064 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:55 pm to
Thanks.

I wade through the shite in this thread, and sometimes it's worth it.

Thanks
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:09 pm to
Sometimes you may wonder, "How is the war effort going for Russia, really?"

Viktor Orban has some comments that should give you insight.

LINK

quote:

During a radio interview on Friday, Orbán admitted that his ally may be in way over his head as the Russia-Ukraine war rages on. "If the Russians were strong enough to defeat the Ukrainians in one go, they would have been defeated, but that's not what we're seeing," Orbán said.

Orban was the only guy in NATO who remains openly friendly towards Russia. This commentary shows just how bad things are going.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:13 pm to
Wow, Tucker the Stupid Phucker was right about the biolabs.

Look at these bio engineered specimens marching to the front.

LINK
Posted by FutureCorridor49
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Member since May 2023
588 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

OMLandshark


Checked in this thread for the first time in a couple months only to find this dude is off his meds and posting again.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5765 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:44 pm to
NATO’s boss wants to free Ukraine to strike hard inside Russia

Jens Stoltenberg says the rules on using Western weapons should be eased

Nato secretaries-general do not normally attack the policies of the alliance’s biggest and most important member country. But Jens Stoltenberg, whose ten-year stint in charge is coming to an end, has done just that. In an interview with The Economist on May 24th, he called on nato allies supplying weapons to Ukraine to end their prohibition on using them to strike military targets in Russia. Mr Stoltenberg’s clear, if unnamed, target was the policy maintained by Joe Biden, America’s president, of controlling what Ukraine can and cannot attack with American-supplied systems.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Checked in this thread for the first time in a couple months only to find this dude is off his meds and posting again.


The Azov are Nazis. This is a fact. If you root for Azov, you are rooting for Nazis.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8464 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:57 pm to
Europe always has a lot of great ideas for ways and means to spend US taxpayer money
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1964 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:17 pm to
LINK Gazprom in real touble

Long article about gazprom's recent financial report.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Mr Stoltenberg’s clear, if unnamed, target was the policy maintained by Joe Biden, America’s president, of controlling what Ukraine can and cannot attack with American-supplied systems.


Even he knows Dementia Joe is a complete and utter failure.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:34 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Western media continues to report that Russian President Vladimir Putin is interested in a negotiated ceasefire in Ukraine, although Kremlin rhetoric and Russian military actions illustrate that Putin remains uninterested in meaningful negotiations and any settlement that would prevent him from pursuing the destruction of an independent Ukrainian state.

Russian sources that have spoken to Western media have also offered mutually contradictory characterizations of Putin's stance on negotiations.

These Russian sources notably highlighted territorial concessions as part of Putin's alleged envisioned ceasefire but have sparsely addressed the wider strategic objectives of Putin's war in Ukraine.

A ceasefire does not preclude Russia from resuming its offensive campaign to destroy Ukrainian statehood, and Russia would use any ceasefire to prepare for future offensive operations within Ukraine.

Russia is currently preparing for the possibility of a conventional war with NATO, and the Kremlin will likely view anything short of Ukrainian capitulation as an existential threat to Russia's ability to fight such a war.

The Kremlin will continue to feign interest in negotiations at critical moments in the war to influence Western decision-making on support for Ukraine and to continue efforts to extract preemptive concessions from the West.

Putin directly rejected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's legitimacy as president on May 24, the latest in a series of efforts to dismiss Zelensky's authority to engage in or reject negotiations with Russia and undermine Ukrainians' trust in Zelensky.

Unnamed Russian government officials and sources within the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and the Kremlin told the independent Russian outlet The Moscow Times that the ongoing effort to remove senior Russian defense officials and uniformed commanding officers will likely continue in the coming weeks and months.

Ukrainian forces conducted a series of successful missile strikes against military targets in Russian-occupied Ukraine on May 23 and 24.

Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted a drone strike against a Russian early warning radar system in Krasnodar Krai, Russia on the morning of May 23.

The Ukrainian military command continues to address Ukraine's manpower challenges.

The US Department of Defense (DoD) announced a military assistance package worth $275 million on May 24 to help Ukrainian forces repel Russian offensive operations in northern Kharkiv Oblast.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg stated on May 24 that NATO member states should consider lifting restrictions on Ukraine's use of Western-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia.

Russian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk, Svatove, Kreminna, and Donetsk City.

The Financial Times (FT) reported on May 23 that Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksandr Lytvynenko stated that Russia recruited more than 385,000 military personnel in 2023.


Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20316 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:20 pm to
20% of Ukranians have answered with their feet and left the country rather than be conscripted and slaughtered on the front lines while cargo pants dances to blinken playing the guitar in one of his discos, while discussing what villa he will buy next with US taxpayer dollars.

Russia offers peace and some of you aholes want the killing to continue.

And somehow believe Ukraine has a negotiating leg to stand on. They have pissed away half the 61 billion and it hasnt even gotten there yet. And it wont make a difference, neither will a handful of f-16s. Its over, its well over. And we have pissed away 200 billion dollars on this nonsense.

Give to Mother Russia what is Mother Russia's and stop this . charade.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42802 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 11:29 pm to
Sober up, you are rapidly becoming the worst poster in this thread, and that says a lot.

Btw, your 48 hour prediction passed long ago and the only thing that got surrounded was Hoover, Alabama and that was by Tiger fans taking over.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21072 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:22 am to
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Give to Mother Russia what is Mother Russia's and stop this . charade.



And we're supposed to believe that you aren't Russian?
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:41 am to
Or and just hear me out, let’s bleed Russia blue/white until they are back in 1991. Your posts smell like Manicou on fire.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20316 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:49 am to
You are laughable. Russia has taken a good portion of the country. 20% of Ukraine has left, 100s of thousands more are dead or wounded. The destruction is approaching half a trillion dollars. Their economy is a disaster (though the prognosticators love to throw in the 100s of billions in US support as part of their GDP).

Yet you somehow believe Russia is "on the verge of collapse". Its laughable, truly laughable.

And yet you condone the continued slaughter of humans on both sides. Russia is offering an end to it, the ball is in the US court, they started it and they can end it.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20316 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:52 am to
quote:

And we're supposed to believe that you aren't Russian?


Im an American taxpayer.....are you?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69318 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:44 am to
MSM hasn't done us any favors saying for two years that Ukraine is winning at every turn while this thing drags on. That said, it appears we are at a scary point where each side is staggered and trying to deliver a haymaker.
quote:

“Zelensky wants a conflict between the United States and Russia to begin,” American television The Hill.

But why should Russia suddenly worry about this? Ukraine has been attempting to strike Russian targets for a while now without much success. Well, because now Ukraine is having serious success. I previously reported on the Russian S-400’s troubles against the ATACMS missile: the problems have gotten much worse for Russia. S-400s are now being regularly taken out to pasture by the barely stoppable ATACMS.

Another battery was just decimated yesterday in Donetsk with a second claimed one being hit in Alushta, Crimea again, though there’s no definitive evidence on that yet. Though I should note I’m not sure it’s proven the below is an S-400, as some suggest it could have been an S-300/350 series based on the destroyed radar.

But here we can finally see in full color how it goes down with the newly released Ukrainian footage. Not only is the S-300/400 and surrounding Shorad defenders—if any—incapable of neutralizing the guiding Shark drone, but the ATACMS missiles themselves overwhelm the battery:

How do we know it’s ATACMS and not anything else? The extremely wide cluster munitions spread is consistent with the much larger ATACMS rather than HIMARS, for instance, which carries less munitions and has a far smaller spread. Also, in the post-strike damage video seen above you can clearly see a discarded ATACMS fuselage on the ground. Ukraine also released a video showing a launch of up to 8 or more ATACMS, though it’s not 100% clear it is meant to show this one specific attack, though that appeared to be the implication.

So: assuming that launch was in fact connected to this particular S-400 hit, what can we surmise? The S-400 battery clearly launches a slew of missiles, and most analysts are interpreting that to mean that the battery did manage to shoot down almost the entire ATACMS package, with only one missile hitting cleanly at the end. But that one was enough to destroy virtually the entire battery.

The problem is: the S-400 is meant to have a 400km detection range. But the system is clearly engaging the ATACMS only seconds away from their impact. This could indicate a major shortcoming of the system, or merely our lack of details.

For instance: sure, the radar itself can detect 400km in the most optimistic/idealistic conditions, but:

That’s only for maximal-sized objects with huge RCS’s like B-52s. A missile, even a large one like an ATACMS, would still be detected at a much closer range—it’s simply down to mathematics. In fact, as the calculations in the above image show, a sub 1.0 RCS object (which most missiles are) would be detected at approximately 30km or less.

The S-300/400 systems can and are loaded with a variety of different missile types for different purposes, some being very short range missiles. If this particular battery was equipped with mostly short ranged ones then it would not be able to engage the ATACMS at long range anyway.

There’s no telling of the crew training of the particular unit.

Some pro-Russian analysts say it’s still a success when the systems are shooting down “most” of the ATACMS at 70-90% rate. The problem is, when your S-300/400 are being attrited with multiple batteries taken out each week, it doesn’t matter if your success rate is 90%—your systems are still failing in their primary duty. It’s just that it’s not a failure particular to them but of the entire AD eco-system. There appears to be a lack of integration (IADS) and a holistic approach to detecting objects at safe ranges, which includes utilizing AWACS and other airborne platforms. The fact that the S-400 is only responding at the final moments of the missiles’ arrival time and time again is a deep issue in detection for the Russian forces.

If it is true that another system was likewise hit in Alushta, Crimea just a day later, then it means Russia has no way of reliably stopping the ATACMS as they are pretty much hitting anything at will.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 7:20 am
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